Ron Rosenbaum, Writer

March 11, 2010

The Tea Party, "The Southern Strategy" and Race

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The best recent elaboration of a relationship I’ve discussed recurrently here—race, the “Southern Strategy” and the racism that shows up in Tea Party commenters–can be found here.

For those Tea Partiers whose knowledge of history is, shall we say, circumscribed, here’s his adumbration of the relationionship beten the Tea Party and the race-based Southern Strategy:

“The insistence that the tea party movement is more about taxes, big government and personal freedoms is partly true. And many tea party people honestly believe it. But if you dig below the surface into the details underlying these banner themes, it’s not difficult to find that, yes, it’s about taxes — taxes on the rich to finance the extravagant lives of layabout welfare queens, or big government “ramming health care down our throats” as a means of slavery reparations to African Americans, and personal freedoms being stripped away by a liberal fascist Nazi who wants to give money and handouts to minorities in the form of health care subsidies and mortgage relief. You know, typical Nazi behavior. If I had a dollar for every Nazi who wanted to funnel government cash to immigrants and minorities…

It’s the subtext that gurgles just below the surface of these three topics that composes the tea party version of the Southern Strategy.

Developed by Republican strategists like Harry Dent and Pat Buchanan during the rebuilding of the GOP in the post Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act era, the Southern Strategy’s goal was to win over southern whites by demonizing blacks using subterfuge, dog whistles and coded language. As I mentioned last week, the late Republican mastermind Lee Atwater described the use of the Southern Strategy as being all about the use of “abstract” issues that imply race without explicitly using direct racial epithets or even the words “black” or “white.”

Atwater described some of the abstract issues of his era as “forced bussing” or taxes, and framing these issues in a way that subconsciously fuels white resentment towards blacks, and serves to coalesce white votes around Republican candidates. After all, Republicans will readily admit that trying to win over black voters has been a lost cause since LBJ, so why not exploit that loss by playing to white racial bias and thus locking down larger chunks of the white vote?”

I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who has made this link, as I have done so repeatedly. And I’m not the only one who has experienced first hand the proof in the form of barely coded, sometimes unashamed racist commenters. I really urge you to read the whole essay, you might see what the Tea Party and its enablers will look like in the perspective of history–and whether you want to be associated with it. Writer Bob Cesca makes the case that the true, barely-hidden ideology of grievance the Tea Partiers express is based on race. it’s not that they dislike Government so much. They sure seem to like Medicare: how many Tea Partiers have responded to my appeal for them to act on their ant-Government principles and pledge to refuse Medicare? Come on, Tea Partiers, it would reduce the deficit too! What’s that you sayyou don’t want to go about without health care insurance?

No the evidence of their inaction suggests they just dislike government when it seeks to help people not like them, the minorities they stereotype for instance.

Don’t believe me? Cesca reprints a typical comment he got to an earlier post on the subject from a typical Tea Partier (who sounds just like the commenters to my posts. I’m going to reprint it in full and ask you Tea Partiers out there (and their enablers) if you’d find anything here you wish to repudiate. If this is the kind of person you want to be in bed with, politically. If I don’t hear any repudiations, I’ll assume that this is how you think. (I know the barely literate style is how your write):

“The Tea Party is NOT about race, it is about me paying taxes to support every non contributing individual that has the ability to pro create. It is not my/our fault that the majority of NON contributors are minority. It is not my/our fault some refuse to learn English, thereby limiting their employment opportunities. Hell, the whole race thing is nothing but bullshit for losers such as Garafolo and yourself to capitalize on. Rest assured Booby Boy we no longer give a damn about what you think do or say The main reason the Tea Party exists is Obama’s Marxist/Socialistic COMMUNISTIC leanings that will ultimately cost me, part of the 50% that pays taxes, as opposed to the 50% that DON’T PAY!! An ideology that will transform this Country into a third world nation. Try having some honest debate Booby and you might gain cred. Until then you’re shining Garafolo’s shoes. Sounds to me like you may be an immigrant yourself with an axe to grind. Is that the case Booby? If so you can always go home! Careful moron that light you’re looking at is a train not the end of the tunnel……”

Yes, the Tea Party has certainly elevated political discourse in America. My sympathy to those who for either idealogical or opportunistic commercial reasons will be stained forever by association with them.

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59 Comments »

  1. Ron you need help. It’s not just a bumper sticker ,you folks are mentally ill.

    Comment by Pedro — March 11, 2010 @ 5:16 am | Reply

  2. when are you going to write about the acorn strategy and race?

    Comment by newrouter — March 11, 2010 @ 6:00 am | Reply

  3. “I’m glad to see I’m not the only one who has made this link, as I have done so repeatedly.”

    Repeatedly? Well, he’s repeatedly claimed that the Tea Party is against all, emphasis all, government regulation. He’s also blames autism on the Tea Party.

    “it’s not that they dislike Government so much. They sure seem to like Medicare: how many Tea Partiers have responded to my appeal for them to act on their ant-Government principles and pledge to refuse Medicare? ”

    Note that lack of capitalization is a typo. And contrast the next time Ron rants about the ignorance of people that comment… like the current post.

    Of more import is Ron’s delusion. Because there was insufficient response to his demands he gets to pass judgment. And what does this yield?

    “No the evidence of their inaction suggests they just dislike government when it seeks to help people not like them, the minorities they stereotype for instance.”

    Consider Ron’s logic. Because you refuse to play his game, by not responding to him or simply laughing to him, he judges you as a racist. Though really it doesn’t matter what you say. That’s the brilliance of “dog whistles” and “code words”. The actual content of your words are irrelevant, what matters is the conspiracy theory people like Ron will weave.

    “I’m going to reprint it in full and ask you Tea Partiers out there (and their enablers) if you’d find anything here you wish to repudiate. ”

    And their enablers? So why don’t you call out your boss? Roger L. Simon is a major enabler. How come you don’t publicly call him out for his support of “racists”?

    Oh, I see you’re too busy calling your readers cowards and racists.

    “My sympathy to those who for either ideological or opportunistic commercial reasons will be stained forever by association with them.”

    Note how Ron is saying this on a website that caters to Tea Parties, to the extent of organizing, hosting, interviewing, and even launching a Tea Party TV site. Delicious self pity.

    Finally note that “racist comment” has replaced “anonymous comment”.

    Again if you have thoughts on this post please use the contact us link at the very bottom of the page. Ron won’t listen to what you say, but his bosses at PJM will. So tell them what you think of Mr. Rosenbaum’s discourse.

    Comment by Jack — March 11, 2010 @ 6:08 am | Reply

  4. A few questions: Who did you align with when the black radicals were telling young black kids that learning to read was acting white? Were you for authenticity or did you want to see worlds open for young people who hadn’t had many chances before? Did you defend Bill Cosby for producing a show that featured black professionals?

    Comment by vb — March 11, 2010 @ 6:12 am | Reply

  5. So if I’m a small-government conservative who is distressed by the runaway spending our leaders can’t bring themselves to even slow, I’m a racist. Forget logic or economics, Rosenbaum has spoken.

    Comment by Old Soldier — March 11, 2010 @ 6:26 am | Reply

  6. “Don’t believe me? Cesca reprints a typical comment he got to an earlier post on the subject from a typical Tea Partier (who sounds just like the commenters to my posts. I’m going to reprint it in full and ask you Tea Partiers out there (and their enablers) if you’d find anything here you wish to repudiate. If this is the kind of person you want to be in bed with, politically. If I don’t hear any repudiations, I’ll assume that this is how you think. (I know the barely literate style is how your write):”

    So is this how the game is played?

    You can pick any policy position or even just a random comment and if you don’t get sufficient “response” you can claim hypocrisy and racism on the part of your enemy?

    By that logic I could say you support Ukrainian genocide for your failure to respond to critiques on the Time’s coverup of the Holodomor.

    Also “barely literate style”?

    “Know Nothngs”
    “about anything for a whle as I do”
    ““Anonymous abusive commenter cowards may not realize in what contemt theyre held in wdening circles of the blogosphere.”
    “,oughtif”

    And of course “Calue”!

    Also I’m not sure the man that thinks that the Tea Parties are causing more autism cases has a leg to stand on when he mocks people for having crackpot conspiracy theories.

    As for “elevated discourse”, I guess Ron would rather people were more demanding and judgmental not to mention using such lovely phrases like this:

    “Cruel and Ignorant” / “like whiny babies throwing a tantrum” / “I had to laugh out loud at the ignoramus who tried to call him a “traitor” but couldn’t spell it, so ended up calling him a “trader”. Ouch! A perfect demonstration of the level of intelligence exhibited by these people. ” [Ed: Calue!] / “lack of any concern about suffering families” / “are you just too cruel to care?” / “A Grade School Lesson for Tea Partiers” /” go to the family of that [fallen] cop and jeer” [Ed: and here’s a Ron-ultimatum. Twofer!] / “Tell the family the cop died to preserve the purity of Tea Party values.” / “unless it’s too late and you’re already brainwashed, which is my impression.” / “Not just the ones who drove the Toyotas but the ones struck down by the killing machines the anti-regulation, anti-government ideology let loose on the highways.” / “Now the Violence of Town Hall/Tea Party Rhetoric Has Infected Previously Sane Republicans” / “Tell it to the dead man’s family Scott. See if they laugh. Oklahoma City must have been a big yuk for these guys.” [Ed: This was Friday. On Tuesday he said this: “Scott Brown, who deserves respect for his independence,”] / “[Stack] was anti government as intrinsically evil. Just like the extremists in the Town Hall/Tea Party movement.”/ “It’s just a matter of time before this kind of window-smashing, gun toting, government-is evil rhetoric turns into more violence against fellow citizens. ” / “Oh yeah, do you want to take away veterans benefits too? That’s a federal government socialized medicine program, right?”/ “I’d just like to know how many are really true to the anti-government principles and how many are just freeloading fakers.”

    But it’s clearly the Tea Partiers that are illiterate, ill-tempered, and paranoid. Oh and they’re cowards too. Like how they’ll hide behind internet anonymity.

    Unlike Ron who proudly and publicly calls out Tea Party enablers, except by actually calling them out by name or organization.

    Comment by Jack — March 11, 2010 @ 6:28 am | Reply

  7. yes, there are racist elements in the TP movement, but that doesn’t mean that their concerns are real; as I have repeatedly commented on this blog, to no avail where Ron is concerned, the problem with this country is the elites. Look no further than the grotesque, opportunistic Arianna Huffington, dupe of the “guru” John-Roger, shill for Newt Gingrich, wife of closeted gay, right wing oil nut Michael Huffington, who then used her divorce money to found the ridiculously elitist liberal HuffPo. Ron, until you man the barricades against your elitist pals, regardless of how right you are about the obnoxious and dangerous elements in the TP, you will just not get it. (Oops, Freudian slip, I meant “that doesn’t mean their concerns aren’t real”) Look at the idiocy of the health care debate: yesterday 6 DEMOCRATIC Senators (Carper, the two Nelsons, Blanche Lincoln, and Warner and Webb of Virginia) killed the President’s student loan reform, because, as Senator “Lincoln” (there’s a joke) baldly stated, they are in the pockets of the student loan financiers gouging kids and their families. These Senators are alot more dangerous than the TPers. I mean, it has gotten to the point that the health insurance industry is jacking up rates to, as they say, “protect the jobs of the health insurance industry workers”. Bank of America announced, churlishly, that it would drop overdraft protection all together in response to the Congress’ minimal credit card reforms, which did not even include restraints on interest rates. Get out of the past Ron: the TPers and the welfare mom are both being punded by the Republocrat Industrial complex. Please try to show just a smidgen of economic awareness, just a tad, just a little bit. Please try to listen to what is out there and stop regurgitating tired liberal tropes from the 60s. The United States is on the brink of a very ugly economic collapse, one that the Obama Administration, until recently, shored up by pandering to the worst elements of Wall Street. How cynical that Obama finally got around to attacking Goldman Sachs a couple of days ago after appointing GSers to run Treasury and taking their campaign money. Teddy Roosevelt and FDR would have had Lloyd Blankfein and his cronies IN JAIL BY NOW!!!!

    Comment by charlie finch — March 11, 2010 @ 6:32 am | Reply

  8. Dear Ron:

    Please be advised that your Race Card account has been closed. This decision was based on your account history of excessive over-limit spending. Please destroy your card immediately as it will no longer be honored.

    Ron apparently has borrowed Mo Dowd’s Secret Racism Decoder Ring, the one that allows her to hear an unspoken “boy” and the like. It’s a true measure of the desperation of the Left that they have to make continual recourse to the dogeared, greasy old race card, today’s equivalent of the Bloody Shirt.

    Actually, Ron, only 1/4 of welfare recipients are black. But of course this isn’t simply about welfare- perhaps you could put a racial spin on John Murtha’s airport, or the stimulus dollars for puppet theaters? And what, pray tell, is racist about government insolvency? After all, Greece doesn’t have much of a black population. The yawning abyss of debt is an equal-opportunity destroyer.

    And maybe somebody could gently point out to Ron that perhaps the two leading living thinkers the Tea Partiers look to are Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams, or that their two favorite up-an-coming politicians are Marco Rubio and Allen West.

    It’s also an indicator of Ron’s lazy conventional-leftist-wisdom approach to, well, everything, that he mindlessly repeats the practiced leftist spin on the Southern Strategy, making it all about desegregation and race. Um, Ron, perhaps you might reflect that conservative Southern Democrats were a GOP opportunity because the Democrats had abandoned them across a full spectrum of issues, not simply race: pacifism as against a culture which holds the military in high regard; atheism as against the religious belief; dependency as against self-reliance.

    But if the Left, as represented by Ron, wish to keep their ideological blinders onthat’s just fine with us: it’s peachy-keen if they go on blithely assuming that the Tea Party movement is nothing more than ignorant racists, slack-jawed yokels who shop at Wal-Mart and attend monster truck rallies. It certainly makes the ever-conceited Left feel better about their perceived superiority to the lumpenproles; and dooms them to the fate of all fail to understand their enemies.

    Comment by Bohemond — March 11, 2010 @ 7:46 am | Reply

  9. Rename this column, “The Daily Slander” and be done with it Ron. You’re not even thinking any more, just repeating the distortions from the democrat bastion of feudal bliss that academia has become.

    Sooner or later the truth about the anti-Tea Party BS will come out and it’ll be the same type of fiction the NYT regularly gets caught publishing coupled with a conspiracy of lies just like Climategate. That’s all the democrat party and the left have had in this country ever since they lost their fight against the Civil Rights Act, lies and conspiracies of lies.

    Comment by rashputin — March 11, 2010 @ 10:00 am | Reply

  10. Let me draw a line: I still believe that President Obama has the potential to be one of the greatest of Presidents. I need only cite the excellent “Weekly Standard” cover story on Obama’s drone strikes two weeks ago, to demonstrate the possibilities of Obama. Like FDR, I believe Obama will be remembered as a war President, the justified heir to his distinctly warrior Kenyan roots who rejected the pacificism of his mother. It is too bad that there are so many young morons who harass Ron on this blog, people with no sense of what Hegel called “recognition”, the possibility that “I am wrong and you are right”. That is why I believe that Ron, the noblest of intellectual interlocutors, should stand down from this forum, in spite of his friendship with “the other Roger Simon”. Better to start a new blog with Carly and Paul.

    Comment by charlie finch — March 11, 2010 @ 10:27 am | Reply

  11. I didn’t bother reading this. When Ron actually 1)joins a local Tea Party group, 2) attends a local Tea Party meeting, if he still believes what he’s “heard” and “read” then maybe he would be relevant. In the meantime I’ll continue to view his bias and his obsession with The Tea Party as the usual vitriol aimed at those he views as his intellectual inferiors. As someone as “intelligent” as yourself, I’m not surprised you continue with the race baiting.

    Comment by Brenda G — March 11, 2010 @ 1:19 pm | Reply

  12. Hey, Ron…

    While you’re on race, why not go after the Party that has as one of its elected leaders a man who was once Kleagle (recruiter) and Grand Cyclops of the Ku Klux Klan? This same Senator personally filibustered the Civil Rights Act of 1964 for 14 hours.

    I speak, of course, of the current President Pro Tempore of the United States Senate, the gentleman from West Virginia, Robert Carlyle Byrd, and his party is the Party of Obama.

    But, hey, we can give all that a pass… smearing the Tea Partiers is much more important, right, Ron? (/sarc)

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 11, 2010 @ 4:19 pm | Reply

  13. My thanks to all who have commented so copiously upon Mr. Rosenbaum’s stupendous ability to fail in the most epic measure in the skill of proofreading.

    To add to the fray, from this newly posted screed’s 2nd paragraph:
    “… relationionship beten …”

    Typical of Mr. Rosenbaum’s bovine scatologically laced treatises, methinks.

    Comment by PhyCon — March 11, 2010 @ 5:04 pm | Reply

  14. Let’s see if I’ve got this right – I should vote for things I don’t support (higher taxes, big government, & a welfare state) because some racist jerk is voting against them ? Are you prepared to abandon your political principles just because you don’t like some of the people who share them ?

    Comment by Rich — March 12, 2010 @ 8:05 am | Reply

  15. This sums it up perfectly:

    Comment by Old Soldier — March 12, 2010 @ 8:42 am | Reply

  16. More evidence of the heavy hands of the elites: now horrible Mayor Bloomberg’s beard/”girlfriend” is rumored to be running for the Senate. Her name is Diana Taylor and she was asleep as State Banking Superintendent when the Wall Street ripoff went down. Gee Harold Ford (Merrill Lynch toadie) and another closet case gazillionaire Mort Zuckerman already floated their names to run against David Paterson appointee Kirsten Gillibrand, upstate political heiress and Hillary Clinton bundler. You would never know that we put upon New Yorkers have TWO Senate seats open this year, Major Wall Street Ass Kisser Chuck Schumer has no opposition. Gee: no accountability, no awareness, and soaking up the big dough from Big Finance crooks just entitles you to go to the Senate, and “Mr. Sixties” Ron never utters peep about them! I’d rather take my chances with any two of the nutjobs that post on this blog as my Senators, thank you!!

    Comment by charlie finch — March 12, 2010 @ 2:05 pm | Reply

  17. Trollin’ trollin’ trollin’…

    Comment by S. Weasel — March 13, 2010 @ 11:33 am | Reply

  18. Transmission intercept via Fluoridated-Enamel Receivers. Decrypted using Racial Dog-Whistle Decoder.

    Content start:

    Hear the mighty words of RonCalue! The great and mighty RonCalue is displeased! The Party of Tea has failed the challenge. In their arrogance they refused to denounce Medicare; they refused to denounce the Insterstate Highway system.

    This is contrary to their Calues! These cowering paranoid illiterts hate all governance, RonCalue has judged it so!

    Yet they defy RonCalu’s will. Blithely, they continue to pay into Medicare and continue to drive on STATE owned Roads! Are they so ignrnt? State roads are socialist roads! There is only one answer for this heresy.

    Racism! RonCalue has judged!

    Those that disagree with plans to expand government programs MUST disagree with ALL government programs. Those that do not are racists conspiracy crackpots part of a GOP plan to control the government, accrue Autism aflictees, accelerate automobiles alarmingly , and aerially assault Austin.

    Free-loading, widow-smashing, gun-toting, Infective, jeering, cruel, ignorami tantrum-babies lacking empathy are a threat to civil political discourse in America! Their hatred and name calling is an affront to RonCalue that fills him with rage!

    RonCalue will ferret out the counter-revolutionary wreckers and the Party of Tea enablers. RonCalue has done his glorious and humble part to thwart the racist, ignrnt, illitert traders! Those that dare ask RonCalue to name the enablers and call them out are COWARDS!

    Such talk is an ill wind.

    The racist anonymous should be warned, a lack of respect will cause more judgments!

    Repudiate! Repudiate! Repudiate!

    It is the only way to cleanse your sins!

    RonCalue has spoken!

    Comment by Jack — March 13, 2010 @ 7:44 pm | Reply

  19. If the pseudo-Conservatives here had any sense at all, they’d realize that Ron is doing them the greatest service by calling out the racists in their midst. But they don’t want to acknowledge or hear it, and that for the cheapest of reasons. Expediency. It will stain them, like Ron says here.

    Thus the Tea Party represents what the actual Conservative movement would have been like if it had no principles at all. If Buckley hadn’t denounced the Birch Society. If Goldwater had been willing to run openly racist ads (look it up). If Russell Kirk had spent all his time fantasizing about Commie conspiracies in higher education instead of touring campuses to debate and discuss.

    I am far from being a Conservative. But my father was a part of that movement, and in his memory I will continue to acknowledge its particular virtues. Funny that the Tea Partiers seem incapable of doing anything but ignoring and degrading said virtues.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 13, 2010 @ 11:49 pm | Reply

  20. Ron is doing a service.

    He’s calling out the racists in our midst, and in our teeth. He’s got the great power to decode the secret racism. Just look at Old Soldiers’s link.

    Sure he’s not actually naming them, or calling out the Tea Party enablers (Simon anyone?). Well, I guess it’s Ron’s job to judge, and our job to meet his decrees.

    “[F]antasizing about Commie conspiracies” bad. Fantasizing about Tea Party conspiracies… good?

    Tea Parties cause Autism!

    Yes, truly a great service.

    Comment by Jack — March 14, 2010 @ 3:23 am | Reply

  21. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight, Fred.

    We’re supposed to accept advice from a guy who says he’s the farthest thing from a conservative.

    Does that mean you’re also going to suggest that Nancy Pelosi start taking advice from Newt Gingrich (which would include scrapping ObamaCare)?

    Come on, Fred… is that sauce for the goose you’re dishing out also sauce for the gander, or are you just another lefty with a tremendous set of double-standards?

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 14, 2010 @ 12:05 pm | Reply

  22. Ron: Nice job of cherry picking the nuthouse comments the other writer had already cherry picked. I think you chose the worst. Good work! Keeping slapping the race card down as often as you do and people are going to think you’re not playing with a full deck. As for “coded” language, we’re now told that using “professor” in connection with Obama is covert racism. I’m thinking that with this elasticity the time is coming when all human activity will be covered by the penumbra of race. Will you be satisfied then?

    Comment by Banjo — March 14, 2010 @ 1:18 pm | Reply

  23. “ConservativeWanderer,”

    Don’t flatter yourself. I didn’t offer you any advice, and really don’t care about you one way or the other. I just told you how the Tea Parties look to anyone with any real knowledge or experience of what the Conservative movement once was at its best.

    I have my own reasons to care about that, which I stated clearly. You have made it very clear that you don’t care about it, aren’t interested in it, and imagine that playing the “race card” will win you a few hands in the short term. Like Ron has stated above, it’s going to cost you in the long term–in the eyes of history.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 14, 2010 @ 5:54 pm | Reply

  24. Interesting, Fred, that you find it laudable for Ron to call out racists in his opponents’ ranks, yet neither you nor Ron seems to be able to find the time to call out the racists in your own midst… like the former Klansman who’s now one of the leaders of the Senate.

    In short, you’ve proven yourself to be just another lefty with a tremendous set of double standards. But thanks for making it so clear.

    Now go back to DailyKOS and brag how you “spoke truth to power,” and bask in the glow of their praise. But quit bothering us here, we’re trying to save the nation from a bunch of ninnies who don’t even realize that it’s a snub to give the Queen of England an iPod with the speeches of one of the ninnies.

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 14, 2010 @ 6:03 pm | Reply

  25. “ConservativeWanderer,”

    I have criticized the Democratic and Republican Parties many times more often than you. And more substantively. But if it makes you feel better just believe whatever you like. For what it’s worth, though, I have never visited DailyKOS. Wouldn’t know it if I saw it.

    And you meanwhile will never repudiate the racists in your ranks because without them you have pretty much nothing left.

    And the Queen of England can speak for herself.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 15, 2010 @ 11:46 am | Reply

  26. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiight, Fred.

    My statements are available to the public… just follow the link in my username. You can see what I and my friends have said.

    Where would one go to see a public archive of you criticizing the Democrats?

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 15, 2010 @ 3:41 pm | Reply

  27. speaking of racists fred…. how about the racist coffee party….

    Doubt ron will be writing about that though….

    http://legalinsurrection.blogspot.com/2010/03/what-if-you-threw-coffee-party-and.html

    AOL News had correspondents at four of the gatherings — in Bethalto, Ill. (a village near the Missouri border), the college town of Corvallis, Ore., Omaha, Neb., and Orlando, Fla. Their reports — though obviously not a scientific sampling — provide a composite portrait of the Coffee Party’s early recruits….

    Attendance: From a low of eight in Corvallis, Ore., to a high of 41 in Orlando.

    Average Age: 48.45

    Gender and Racial Breakdown: The crowds at the four events our correspondents attended were predominately white and roughly 60 percent male.

    Look at the photos of the coffee parties, notice something (mostly) missing?

    Comment by robotech master — March 15, 2010 @ 6:42 pm | Reply

  28. “ConservativeWanderer,”

    I just looked at your site and the very first headline I read could have come straight off Stormfront: “Qualified candidate passed over for police chief job–because he is white!” Just like the crap the Nazis and Klan used to slip under people’s doors back in the ’70s in Marquette Park. So okay, now I have absolutely no doubt where you are coming from. I hope you give thanks every day for the Civil Rights Movement, because the moral authority its memory still wields is the only thing keeping you relatively sane–if mighty, mighty dishonest.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 15, 2010 @ 10:43 pm | Reply

  29. 28. Fred Mecklenburg,

    You must have had to cherry-pick that because I couldn’t even find it and how in the hades is THAT racist but THIS isn’t?

    AND, when is Ron going to address the antisemitism within his own leftist comrades?

    Comment by Delia — March 16, 2010 @ 8:43 pm | Reply

  30. Delia,

    I didn’t have to cherry pick a damned thing. Went right to the relevant place on his site labeled “Race Relations.” Considering his comments, and this whole discussion, what else would I look at? And that was the very first thing that appeared.

    A little late to change the subject now… but I understand this is what people do when they lose arguments.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 16, 2010 @ 9:42 pm | Reply

  31. 30. Fred Mecklenburg,

    I thought this whole thread was about ‘racism’? Or is it in only ‘selective’ racism?

    Again, this link ( you conveniently ignored) was regarding racism of Blacks against Asians:

    http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2010/03/025839.php

    Take the ‘evil-whitey-blinders’ off and imagine your world run rampant by black/brown thugs that have overrun the school/welfare/public systems via soft bigotry and lowered expectations. It ain’t pretty.

    Comment by Delia — March 16, 2010 @ 11:15 pm | Reply

  32. P.S. My remark about antisemitism was that pointing out a needle in someone else’s eye when you have a glaring LOG in your own is rather disingenuous at best and blatantly hypocritical at worst.

    There are racists in both Democrat/Repub/Yadda-Yadda party no matter WHAT you do.

    Calling any predominantly melanin-challenged group of people racists simply for being grouped together for the same cause which has nada to do with skin color is lame.

    Comment by Delia — March 16, 2010 @ 11:22 pm | Reply

  33. Delia,

    Ron Rosenbaum has written profoundly about antisemitism. Your comment was so wide of the mark that it seemed like a polite thing to do to just let it slide.

    I am not a great fan of John Lennon’s song “Imagine,” but have to say that I do prefer it to your invitation to “imagine a world of black and brown thugs run rampant,” which may be just to say that I prefer The Beatles to “The Birth of a Nation.”

    BTW: As a parent concerned with an urban public school system, I know quite well what does and doesn’t go on there. Like anyone more concerned with their ideology than with reality, you presume way too much.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 17, 2010 @ 6:02 pm | Reply

  34. 33. Fred Mecklenburg,

    I appreciate your genteel tête-à-tête with me and thank you for being civil and kindly. I actually think very highly of Ron except for when he broad-strokes people who will one day be a ‘minority’ in the USA as ‘racists’ when there is anti-white racism all around. Will white people get ‘special’ treatment when they are in the minority? That includes Jews who are white btw as well as being some of the most persecuted people on planet earth to this day.

    By brown/black thugs via soft bigotry, I mean that ‘coddling’ minorities when they behave badly is just as evil as telling a black/brown person, “You’re too stupid and animalistic to be treated like a white person who is [supposedly] smarter and further advanced than you and therefore we will make ‘special’ allowances for your lack of decency, manners and constant and flagrant flippancy to the rule of law.”

    That kind of Leftist attitude is SOFT BIGOTRY.

    Look at Detroit and California for an example of what happens when soft bigotry is all about. When people stop caring about brown/black people even being LITERATE in ENGLISH, we have a HUGE problem.

    We are all of African ancestry and the idea of ‘race’ should be erased once and for all if we are to be a UNITED AMERICA and not a bunch of separatist offshoots of ethnic groups.

    Comment by Delia — March 17, 2010 @ 10:02 pm | Reply

  35. Mr. Mecklenburg:

    “28. Fred Mecklenburg:

    “ConservativeWanderer,”

    I just looked at your site and the very first headline I read could have come straight off Stormfront: “Qualified candidate passed over for police chief job–because he is white!” (snip)
    Mar 15, 2010 – 10:43 pm”

    Interesting, Mr. Mecklenburg. You had to go (as of the date of this comment AND your comment) to the bottom of PAGE 4 of ACW to find that headline. I cannot say you are a liar because you stated, “I just looked at your site and the very first headline I read…(snip)”. Very interesting that you went through FOUR PAGES of posts to find that one headline.

    Now, tell me, did you READ THE POST or just the headline?

    You are a faker at best.

    For the record, I am the chief editor of ACW and CW is the owner/cheif writer for the site.

    Comment by PhyCon — March 17, 2010 @ 10:32 pm | Reply

  36. Mr. Mecklenburg:

    Now that I’ve read through the rest of the comments (thanks for the backup Delia), I’ll even apologize for the “FOUR PAGES” portion of my comment above. What you actually had to do was scroll down approximately 9 screen pages (at 1024X768 pixel resolution on a 17″ laptop screen) to get to the “Catagories” section where “Race Relations” shows as the last visible selection (on my screen). Then you had to click on “Race Relations” to get to the post you reference.

    And, in that “scrolling down” you had to pass no less than FOUR headlines, THREE full posts, and ONE partial post.

    Again, I ask you…did you READ THE POST or just the headline?

    Let me help you and anyone else who is interested:
    Post in question

    (URL in case link dies: http://conservativewanderer.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/qualified-candidate-passed-over-for-police-chief-job-because-he-is-white/)

    Comment by PhyCon — March 17, 2010 @ 11:08 pm | Reply

  37. 36. PhyCon,

    The idea of a white person standing up against racism from other ethnic groups is a big ‘ha-ha’ joke to some while they turn a blind eye.

    The truth is hard to face and nobody wants to address it:

    Black and Brown racism not only exists but now is encouraged.

    Now it’s NOT about getting ‘rid’ of racism but the ‘right’ kind of racism.

    Some people may think, ‘well, the pendulum rightfully swings the other way’ or ‘past wrongs make new wrongs right’ but, as evidenced in our country when ‘wrongs’ are allowed to have free lunch money and little dignity and animosity at the hand that feeds them, “No, past wrongs don’t make new wrongs right.”

    My GOD, give melanin challenged Africans a break!

    Comment by Delia — March 18, 2010 @ 1:21 am | Reply

  38. Fred:

    I’m still waiting for the place where I can go to see a public archive of you criticizing Democrats. You’ve made the claim, now either prove it or withdraw it.

    Oh, and nice job reaching back to October of last year for a “racist” post. Delia and my Chief Editor PhyCon seem to have done a good job exposing your weak argument there, so I’ll let them carry that argument.

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 18, 2010 @ 5:10 am | Reply

  39. JUMP !

    Comment by Pedro — March 18, 2010 @ 7:18 am | Reply

  40. 37. Delia,

    I echo your insight. The post Mr. Mecklenburg has taken exception to is a classic example. I had thought of posting as much last night but, alas, didn’t.

    Again, my thanks for your artful flaying of Mr. Mecklenburg and defense of ACW.

    Comment by PhyCon — March 18, 2010 @ 9:09 am | Reply

  41. “ConservativeWanderer” & “Phycon,”

    Repeating: All I had to do was scroll down the first page until I saw the category, “Race Relations.” The disgusting thing in question was the first item that came up.

    The truth is, you got caught. You are also lying disgracefully about how “hard” it is to find what I found so easily.

    But I wouldn’t expect race baiters to do anything else. “PhyCon,” I guess you’re the real culprit here. “ConservativeWanderer,” you must be just “the pawn in their game.”

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 18, 2010 @ 11:02 am | Reply

  42. Delia,

    It’s true that any kind of person can be a racist. But right now, it is mainly white racism that is being promoted. Almost shamelessly. Like we have seen with the race baiters here.

    This isn’t odd. When Harold Washington became the mayor of Chicago there was a huge upsurge in white racism. Sometimes from genuine racists, who believed in it, and sometimes from people who were willing to use it for short-term political gain. It is eerie how similar lots of the anti-Obama rhetoric is–racists aren’t very creative in that regard.

    (Needless to say, not all criticism of Obama’s policies is racist. Including my own, which is extensive.)

    The bottom line, in my opinion, is exactly what Ron Rosenbaum said above. These people will be seen, in the context of history, for the wretches that they are.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 18, 2010 @ 11:21 am | Reply

  43. Fred,

    I’m not buying your red herring.

    Where is the public archive of your criticism of Democrats that you bragged about in comment 25 above?

    Answer that question, sir.

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 18, 2010 @ 3:17 pm | Reply

  44. Mr. Mecklenburg,

    “Repeating: All I had to do was scroll down the first page until I saw the category, “Race Relations.” The disgusting thing in question was the first item that came up.

    The truth is, you got caught. You are also lying disgracefully about how “hard” it is to find what I found so easily.

    But I wouldn’t expect race baiters to do anything else. “PhyCon,” I guess you’re the real culprit here. “ConservativeWanderer,” you must be just “the pawn in their game.”

    Yes, Fred, all you HAD to do was scroll down. Past, at the time, “approximately 9 screen pages (at 1024X768 pixel resolution on a 17″ laptop screen) to get to the “Catagories” section where “Race Relations” shows as the last visible selection (on my screen). Then you had to click on “Race Relations” to get to the post you reference.”

    But I repeat myself. You, sir, FAILED TO READ the post and only concentrated on the headline. The headline is perfectly descriptive of the contents of the post which is approximately 90% quoted content from another news source with a link provided to the entire story.

    At the chance of repeating myself one more time: DID YOU READ THE POST or JUST THE HEADLINE???

    Allow me to repeat your words, again: “The truth is, you got caught. You are also lying disgracefully about how “hard” it is to find what I found so easily.”

    No, Sir. What I described is perfectly repeatable by anyone who cares to test my veracity. You, Sir, are the one who has been “caught”. Not in a lie but in an obfuscation at the very least.

    And I even acknowledge the mispelling of “Catagories” in my second comment.

    Comment by PhyCon — March 18, 2010 @ 4:25 pm | Reply

  45. “PhyCon,”

    You are a liar. You are a race baiter. You got caught. You know it. I know it. As does anyone else who cares to know it. End of discussion.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 18, 2010 @ 6:59 pm | Reply

  46. Mr. Mecklenburg,

    Once again, Sir, you have failed to READ THE POST.

    You have the gall to call me a liar and a race baiter when you stated this in #28, “I just looked at your site and the very first headline I read could have come straight off Stormfront: “Qualified candidate passed over for police chief job–because he is white!””

    In order to be able to do that, at the time of that comment, you had to scroll PAST four headlines to get to the “Categories” (spelled correctly this time) section under the conditions I stated previously no less than twice.

    What I have stated is eminently provable by third parties. Any takers?

    Calling ME a liar and race baiter, Mr. Mecklenburg? When anyone using the conditions I stated will be able to vindicate me?

    You are a sad man.

    (The conditions have changed slightly thanks to a new post by CW. It is now 8 screen pages using my Page Down button with 1024X768 pixel resolution on a 17″ laptop screen. Click on my username or CW’s to get to our blog and run your own test. Read the post even…comments are off though since it was posted back in 10/28/09. Then report back as to who is the liar.)

    Comment by PhyCon — March 18, 2010 @ 7:35 pm | Reply

  47. “PhyCon,”

    I will point out that at one time that “obscure” headline must have been your number one top headline. Wasn’t obscure then, was it? It was still the top headline under “Race Relations,” which tells the world just exactly what you mean by that category–race baiting.

    You just keep making yourself more ridiculous, and disgusting.

    Like I said, discussion over.

    Comment by Fred Mecklenburg — March 18, 2010 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  48. Mr. Mecklenburg,

    On October 28, 2009 there were two posts. The one you have taken exception to was the later of the two and, therefore, until the next post on October 30, 2009 it was indeed the “number one top headline” for approximately 46 hours and 39 minutes.

    Have you READ THE POST yet?

    You have placed the word obscure in quotes. Never once have I claimed it was so. What I claimed (and posted exact directions/conditions which are replicable by any third party interested in the exercise) is you had to scroll past FOUR HEADLINES before finding the “Categories” section and then clicking on the “Race Relations” category to arrive at the post in question.

    I am taking you at your word when you stated, “I just looked at your site and the very first headline I read …” (emphasis mine).

    I presume you didn’t read any of those FOUR HEADLINES.

    The mirror is somewhat cloudy, methinks.

    Comment by PhyCon — March 18, 2010 @ 8:07 pm | Reply

  49. Since you apparently can’t offer me any sort of evidence that you’ve actually criticized Democrats at any time in your adult life, Fred, I think we can consider that a deliberate falsehood (i.e. LIE).

    Now, I have another question for you. Is there any conservative, either alive or having passed away, that you will admit is not a racist, or are all conservatives racists by your definition?

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 18, 2010 @ 8:15 pm | Reply

  50. 42. Dear Fred Mecklenburg:

    “It’s true that any kind of person can be a racist. But right now, it is mainly white racism that is being promoted. Almost shamelessly. Like we have seen with the race baiters here.”

    White ‘racism’ is a rather selective and minority type, unless you consider all people who are trying to preserve their own ethnic culture as ‘racist’. Is it racist to not want to go near an ‘all black neighborhood because crime is high in all black neighborhoods? I don’t have KKK in my background or slave owners in my background just because I’m white. Do you? Should I assume you are racist because you exclusively hang out with people of your own ‘shade’?

    Let’s be honest right here and now. When you call someone a ‘racist’ who IS NOT A RACIST it is meant to hurt and ‘smear’ and demean that person and pretty much shut them up.

    A REAL racist is more than happy to be called a ‘racist’ because that is what they are and have no problem with being called one.

    A person who does not consider themselves a racist is hurt and insulted because they are not racists. How in the hell can you get in someone’s head who is standing up for themselves? Using the ‘race-card’ is an evil and disingenuous smear tactic by the LEFT that is beyond its expiration date.

    For white people to stand up for themselves in any/all forms is NOT racist.

    Affirmative action is racist and a blatant dumbing down of education for the sake of the ‘stupid negro’? That’s not racist?

    If white ‘preservation’ is ‘racist’, then so is ‘black preservation’, ‘Indian preservation’, ‘Jewish preservation’, ‘Hispanic preservation’, ‘et al preservation’.

    When do we drop the ‘hyphen’ and become AMERICAN? When do we stop the ‘victim’ mentality of minorities who refuse to learn English or obey our laws? When do we stop allowing one minority to abuse another minority and blame ‘whitey’ by trying to ‘equalize’ the discipline of whites vs. blacks when there are so many OTHER ethnic variants involved.

    Our country is a hot mess and calling someone ‘racist’ for RIGHTFULLY standing up for their shade of melanin when others of different shades of melanin get a free pass is whack.

    There are people who would seriously love to just kick ‘whitey’ to the curb in this country.

    Google:

    Black Power

    La Raza

    Come to your own intelligent conclusions.

    Comment by Delia — March 18, 2010 @ 9:30 pm | Reply

  51. (in my best imitation of Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller’s Day Off)

    Mecklenburg? Mecklenburg? Mecklenburg?

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 19, 2010 @ 4:36 pm | Reply

  52. 51. ConservativeWanderer,

    Heh! I loved that movie! 🙂

    I should also have mentioned to Mr. Mecklenburg that a lot of racism from those folks who are deemed part of the ‘victim groups’ is purposely kept out of the headlines while ‘white racism’ is always trumped up. David Horowitz wrote of this shameful phenomena back in 2002:

    The Hate Crime That Dare Not Speak It’s Name

    ALL racism is bad and that includes racism against whites. Period.

    Comment by Delia — March 19, 2010 @ 7:19 pm | Reply

  53. On top of everything I’ve already written about Mr. Mecklenburg’s erroneous and misleading statements, I decided to check just how many posts contained the category of “Race Relations” on ACW. At the time of his comment @ #28 there were a total of 856 posts in ACW’s history. Of that, 20 contained the “Race Relations” category. The reason the post he has taken such affront to is still the #1 post under that category is because it happens to be the last post to contain it. All 20 were posted between the dates of 11/17/08 and 10/29/09.

    Allow me to indulge in some basic statistics now. That means, as Mr. Mecklenburg’s comment @ #28, the absolute percentage of posts on ACW that contained the category of “Race Relations” is: 2.336445% (rounded up slightly).

    If he is attempting to suggest we are such race baiting scum by writing in comment @ #28: “I just looked at your site and the very first headline I read could have come straight off Stormfront: (snip)”, then I find that percentage to be sadly lacking for him to qualify our little blog as a site equivalent to Stormfront.. In fact, I find it completely disingenuous.

    I repeatedly asked him if he read the post itself instead of just the headline. He has so far not responded to that question. I also repeatedly stated the conditions under which he could have locating the “Race Relations” category in sufficient detail for any third party interested to test my veracity. I did not include the potential technique of using “ctrl+f” and searching for “race relations” or equivalent as his stated technique “(snip) the very first headline I read (snip)” did not indicate the use of the tool. Furthermore, there were no less than four headlines visible before being able to reach the “Race Relations” category via scrolling or paging down. I took him at his word about “(snip) the very first headline I read (snip)” meant those four headlines did not make any sort of imprint on his retinas or occipital lobe.

    Since that time, Mr. Mecklenburg has made such fabulously insightful comments such as this (quoted in full):

    “45. Fred Mecklenburg:
    “PhyCon,”

    You are a liar. You are a race baiter. You got caught. You know it. I know it. As does anyone else who cares to know it. End of discussion.”

    I find Mr. Mecklenburg’s inability to a) answer the simple question of “Did you read the post or just the headline?”, b) refute my eminently repeatable exercise, and C) engage in anything other than playing his Race Card to be quite telling.

    You are quite correct in one thing, however, Mr. Mecklenburg. The discussion is at an end.

    Comment by PhyCon — March 19, 2010 @ 8:38 pm | Reply

  54. 53. PhyCon,

    “SWOOSH”! Slam-dunk! 2 points!

    That is all, and good have a nice weekend. 🙂

    Comment by Delia — March 19, 2010 @ 8:52 pm | Reply

  55. 53. PhyCon,

    “SWOOSH”! Slam-dunk! 2 points!

    Edit: That is all, and good have a nice weekend. 🙂

    Gah!

    Comment by Delia — March 19, 2010 @ 8:54 pm | Reply

  56. 55. Delia:

    Thank you. I shall and I wish you to have a nice weekend as well. 🙂

    Comment by PhyCon — March 19, 2010 @ 8:58 pm | Reply

  57. Thank you, PhyCon,

    It hurts my core and identity as an American when we are so torn asunder via race/class wars.

    P.S. I wish I could comment on your blog but for some lame-arsed reason I can’t get a wordpress account to work for me and I’ve tried and tried and I’m a fairly geeky gal so I don’t know what is goin’ on. 😦

    My alt email is: ch3fz-7@yahoo.com.au if there is a way for you to let me in I’d be much appreciative but, if not, I understand if you’re limited with the way your user’s commentarians have access.

    Comment by Delia — March 19, 2010 @ 9:42 pm | Reply

  58. Delia,

    You are most welcome.

    I completely agree with you on the pain caused by the division of our country. It has happened on almost every fault line, I belive by design. Politicians and others like to pigeonhole people into ‘nice groupings’. It reminds me of Venn diagrams and is terribly unfortunate.

    I was raised to be colorblind though I am pigeonholed into several groups including ‘white’ and ‘male’ among many others. As such I’ve experienced firsthand the sort of soft (reverse) racism you have so eloquently discussed on just those two levels.

    The concept of “hyphenated” American (my apologies to the user of that moniker) is one of the poisons we have in our society. I am only a 2nd generation American on both sides yet I refer to myself as American instead of the myriad of “pick a nationality”-American. If more Americans dropped that hyphen and viewed others as I do, that would be an end to this grouping system we seem to have developed. For the record, I believe there is only one race: Human. We simply come in different shapes/sizes/colors/societies/heritages/etc.

    There are only two groups I want to be pigeonholed into: American and Human. I freely admit to being a jingoist (perhaps, ‘nationalist’ would be the better term to use), but only in the ‘good’ sense of the word. I believe the United State of America IS the best country this world has ever known and, quite possibly, will ever know. Americans are the most generous, kind, and giving of all peoples/nationalities in the world, past or present. I pray it remains so.

    I will have to kick that issue over to CW since he is owner/admin. Plus he has much more experience with the guts of WordPress than I. He will get in touch, I assure you.

    Regards,

    PhyCon

    Comment by PhyCon — March 19, 2010 @ 10:54 pm | Reply

  59. I will have to kick that issue over to CW since he is owner/admin. Plus he has much more experience with the guts of WordPress than I. He will get in touch, I assure you.

    Done and done. Does PhyCon know me or what? 🙂

    Comment by ConservativeWanderer — March 20, 2010 @ 7:33 am | Reply


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