Ron Rosenbaum, Writer

February 28, 2010

Who Are the "Tyrants"?

Filed under: Uncategorized — ronrosenbaumwriter @ 8:23 am

An extremely thoughtul piece by NYU journalism professor Jay Rosen which discussed how journalists should cover the Tea Partiers claim of “impending tyranny”. I’m not sure I agree completely with him that an objective journalist needs to say how ridiculous the claim is, but the discussion and comments are valuable and thought provoking.

In fact, it is the Tea Partiers who the ones who seek to impose a kind of tyranny by seeking to crush dissent from their views. For all their reverence for the Founding Fathers, respect for the First Amendment right of free expression (something quite important to the Founding fathers)–even if it is vigorously critical free expression, like the Revolutionary War anti-tyranny pamphleteers–seems to have escaped them. As soon as they see anything critical of them, they want to see it banned.

Shame on them. I guess we’ll see if anyone is craven enough to cave to them.



  1. And you can back your lame charges with any, you know, facts? No, of course not. Just more empty namecalling. After all, who actually creates and enforces Speech Codes? And who wants to dictate every sodding detail of our lives from which light bulbs to use to which children’s books we can buy to what we do with our own orange peels? Hey, no tyrannical impulse there!

    You’re getting so tiresome, Ron.

    Comment by Bohemond — February 28, 2010 @ 8:48 am | Reply

  2. Ron, you can’t be serious. There is no call for banning speech of any kind by anyone in the anti-tyranny tea party movement. Why all the hostility toward a group that merely wants redistributionists and statists like you to leave your big ideas in your house and not cram any of them into mine?

    Say all you want any time you want! Just please stop grabbing 50% of my wages, then spending even more money you don’t have on things we can do for ourselves, and destroying freedom in the name of some crap called social justice or fairness or whatever. Give me liberty, including the liberty to call lefties like you unhinged.

    Comment by Tommytruffle — February 28, 2010 @ 9:15 am | Reply

  3. Wow, those journalists are really deluded.

    No wonder nobody listens to them any more.

    Comment by Evil Pundit — February 28, 2010 @ 9:52 am | Reply

  4. So I think its official ron… you are not taking your meds… you were given those pills for a reason… they keep the bad ppl and voices away… those evil tea party ppl and voices. TAKE YOUR PILLS RON they will make the voices go away.

    Comment by robotech master — February 28, 2010 @ 12:29 pm | Reply

  5. “In fact, it is the Tea Partiers who the ones who seek to impose a kind of tyranny by seeking to crush dissent from their views…. As soon as they see anything critical of them, they want to see it banned.”

    Well… where’s the support for this assertion?

    Any sources?

    Or are you just going Tea Parties == Bad?

    Comment by Jack — February 28, 2010 @ 5:57 pm | Reply

  6. He looat this?

    Not only is it about those evil Tea Parties that are trying to destroy Ron’s first amendment rights but it’s written by an “anonymous coward”!

    Head for the hills!

    Comment by Jack — February 28, 2010 @ 6:09 pm | Reply

  7. “As soon as they see anything critical of them, they want to see it banned. Shame on them. I guess we’ll see if anyone is craven enough to cave to them. ”

    Translation: Please stop using the Contact Us form on the bottom of the page. Please stop complaining to Roger L. Simon.

    Poor Ron, he doesn’t quite get that free speech also covers people being able to complain to a company about its product.

    Unless he thinks that the Tea Partiers are complaining to Congress to get the Feds to shut him down.

    So is Ron hyperbolic, paranoid, or ignorant?

    Comment by Jack — February 28, 2010 @ 6:18 pm | Reply

  8. So the Times was wrong for once not inserting opinion into a new piece? For once the didn’t just call us idiots, so that’s wrong?

    I have participated in Tea Party events because I am concerned about the impending tyranny of big government. Sure, have the Times do an in depth investigation on freedoms already lost and what we stand to lose in the near future if the DNC agenda was fully implemented.

    Here are a few places to start:

    1. Gun Rights – probably a whole piece right there. I grew up in MA in a town that sent Minutemen to fight the Brits. Now I can’t buy a round of ammo there without an intrusive background investigation. The last rifle I bought there (while a Marine Reservist (an armed militia) so I could practice between drills) was retroactively banned. Tyrants never did like an armed populance.

    2. Economic Freedoms – Imagine if Woodrow Wilson had told the middle class that they were going to pay 1/3 of their income in 1912. The 16th Amendment would never have passed (if it actually did) and he would have lost to Taft and Roosevelt. Every time we earn, spend, move, or save our money, the government is there to keep an eye on us. The wealth of our labor is no longer our own. Now my kids’ earnings have been spent and they will spend their lives repaying the Chinese.

    3. Too Many Laws – Nobody knows the Law anymore. Our legal system has become massive and complex beyond the capacity of citizens to navigate. Lawyers are everywhere because no lay person can possibly know what state or federal law or regulation is going to ambush him. That complexity leads to arbitrary enforcement. As Harvey Silverglate and Gene Healy argue, since almost everything has been criminalized, we all commit three felonies a day. If we cross law enforcement, bureaucrats, or politicians, we are at their mercy.

    Once they finish listing the freedoms we have lost, look at our losses if healthcare and forced unionism is passed. Notice how nobody says “it’s a free country” any more? It’s not.

    Comment by Old Soldier — March 2, 2010 @ 8:02 am | Reply

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