I’d like all the Tea Partiers who must have skipped U.S. history to contemplate the death of a California cop and three others, killed according to today’s New York Post, no satanic liberal outlet “by a Toyota’s sudden acceleration when the pedal got stuck in a floor mat.”
Now read the rest of the story in the luciferian MSM you avoid to maintain you ignorance (or get someone to explain it to you). The rest of the story is all about e mails revealing how Toyota’s “Safety” division boasted to its bosses that it had saved a hundred millllion dollars by conning the lax Bush Administration regulators to limit, floor pedal recalls in 2007.
Now I want you to go to the family of that cop and jeer about the “terrible burden” federal regulations impose on free enterprise. How government is the enemy, and sure, their husband/father would be alive if there were vigorous regulation, but you’ve been told by your Tea Party leaders that it’s all bad. No government interference for you! Tell the family the cop died to preserve the purity of Tea Party values. I’ll bet that will console them.
Then go read some American history about how we learned in the New Deal that a rational system of regulation saves capitalism from itself, from its unrestrained greed even when that greed means making a buck off killing untold numbers of citizens by hiding the fatal defects in their cars.
This should be a lesson to you, unless it’s too late and you’re already brainwashed, which is my impression.
Maybe then you’ll realize that all aspects of government regulation are not all bad. Incompetent maybe, harassed by brainless de regulators, yes, need to be improved, strengthened, yes. But If the inspectors hadn’t been such pushovers for Toyota’s obscene greed, who knows how many families wouldn’t have to be mourning deaths now? Not just the ones who drove the Toyotas but the ones struck down by the killing machines the anti-regulation, anti-government ideology let loose on the highways.
What if it had been someone in your family? Still want to smash the windows of government?
Ron Rosenbaum, Writer 
“Now read the rest of the story in the luciferian MSM you avoid to maintain you ignorance (or get someone to explain it to you).”
Be the first to deliver an insult. Let the bastards know you’re no patsy.
Comment by Banjo — February 22, 2010 @ 11:36 am |
Once again Mr. Rosenbaum goes for the absurd Strawman.
He, deliberately, confuses the Tea Party with anarchists. And again, if he thought the Tea Party was so bad why is he not calling out PJM CEO Roger L. Simon for perusing a pro-Tea Party editorial stance?
He even mentions the actual Tea Party position, but glosses it over in favor of his strawman. “Maybe then you’ll realize that all aspects of government regulation are not all bad. Incompetent maybe, harassed by brainless de regulators, yes, need to be improved, strengthened, yes. ”
However, there’s no point in trying to convince Ron. He’s now progressing to where anything bad is the Tea Party’s fault, any nut, any violence, any act of government regulation is the fault of one movement.
Any bets on what Ron will blame the Tea Party for next?
Perhaps he’d be less sarcastic towards MSN incompetence if he read some of PJM’s articles on the subject. Such as ones that are on the homepage right now.
My point is that there is no arguing with Ron. He is simply trolling.
On the other hand at the very bottom of this page is a “Contact Us” form. In personal experience I have found the rest of the PJM editorial board to be most receptive and respectful.
I suggest everyone use that first. Inform PJM your feelings on Ron’s continued ad hominem and rampant simplistic hatred. Be polite but be firm. Inform the editors and staff what you think of his continued bile and simplistic insults.
Remember be polite, but if you have issues with this man and his style let them know it.
And as a final appeal to civility. Restrain your anger and be civil in your complaints. Ron, being a troll, wants you to be angry wants you to lash out.
Comment by Jack — February 22, 2010 @ 11:42 am |
Here’s the article I mentioned:
http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/american-journalists-mia-on-global-warming/
There’s also the Van Jones scandal that only broke on Ron’s beloved NYT after he resigned.
And do we even need to mention the Edwards? There was a deliberate media blackout on a man running for POTUS and had previously gotten even closer to VP.
If Ron actually read the other articles on the site he posts on, he’d realize how laughable this statement is: “Now read the rest of the story in the luciferian MSM you avoid to maintain you ignorance (or get someone to explain it to you).”
But then Ron would not be able to smugly call you ignorant, all while he deliberately ignores the articles being posted right here. It’s like when he demanded the Tea Parties present their HealthCare plan, the very day that Dr Peter Weiss had a piece on that subject up on PJTV’s homepage.
The contrast is rather funny.
As for what Ron’ll blame the Tea Party on next, I think he’ll go for the DC “gridlock”.
Comment by Jack — February 22, 2010 @ 12:09 pm |
“Then go read some American history about how we learned in the New Deal that a rational system of regulation saves capitalism from itself,”
Like everything you’ve posted lately: crap. What the New Deal taught us is how unprincipled leftists can use panic and scaremongering to grow overweening government to burdensome and frightening levels. And how government intervention can make an economic downturn deeper and longer.
How about you go read some economics, Ron? and then repeat after me: FDR was a putz.
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Spare your “poor victim” rhetoric- it’s smarmy even in the mouth of a trial laqwyer, and even sleazier from one who pretends to be a journalist. Maybe if you really were a journalist, you’d stop lapping up the press releases and dig into why Toyota is suddenly under siege by its biggest competitor’s owner, the US Government.
Comment by Bohemond — February 22, 2010 @ 12:30 pm |
Forgive me if this is a double post
Its always nice to see ron fall back to a classic argument of the left… racism.
To quote ron “If only the government(aka republicans) hadn’t freed the blacks 1,000s would of ppl would be alive today”… is that really the best you got ron…. really?
Wheres your posts about how gun control kills 1,000s… how about illegals… where is your “we must enforce the regulation” when it comes to those illegals ron? Surely by now you’ve written hundreds if not thousands of pieces demanding the “regulations” be enforced….
Toyota defects has killed what 15 ppl total…. TOTAL… BROWN LUNCH BAGS have killed more ppl then that….
Ron you need mental help… you are suffering from paranoid schizophrenia please seek help.
Comment by robotech master — February 22, 2010 @ 12:58 pm |
So shall I use your straw-man arguing technique to argue with you, Ron?
I’m assuming that you believe that Toyota would have been a better, more ethical car company with more and stronger government regulation. Logic tells me then that they would have been even more superior with government ownership, as opposed to government oversight. The same would hold true for the rest of society, so private ownership of any business ought to be prohibited, right? Socialism is the only just system?
The fact of the matter is that this tragedy (the runaway accident that caused the deaths of the CHP officer and his family) is the product of a sort of perfect storm. The floor mat (and perhaps a faulty accelerator) caused the car to accelerate out of control, and a combination of unfamiliarity with the car, panic, and a complicated automatic shifter somehow caused the driver and passengers to miss the obvious solution to the problem: shifting the car’s transmission into neutral. It turns out that the *same* car had a runaway acceleration incident a few days before the accident (while rented to someone else) and he did just that, put the car in neutral and steered over to the side of the road safely. No, I’m not trying to blame the driver or passengers; I’m trying to point out that the situation is more complex than Bad Corporation vs. Good Citizens. Why, for instance, wasn’t the car removed from the rental pool after the previous incident?
This sort of simplistic, rather arrogant argument is just annoying to me. Congress passed, and the President signed, a new set of regulations for Credit Cards. My wife (no conservative she) tells me that she read that the Credit Card companies have already figured ways around eight of the ten clauses of the new regulations, and of course they’re working on the other two. Do I think Credit Cards without regulation would be better? No, I don’t. I just don’t think regulating them helps as much as those on the left seem to think they will/do. My sincere guess is that the President and the Dems in Congress will trumpet their “triumph” over the Credit Card issuers, and try to gloss over the failure of the legislation to stop abuses.
So no, I’m not opposed to government regulation. I am, however, opposed to regulation for the sake of regulation, merely because the intrusion of government into private life, business, or society somehow inherently improves it. See, the problem is I just can’t stick with that snarky straw-man type of argument, it sticks in my craw and makes me crazy. Try thinking a bit before you write, rather than just ranting.
Comment by DavidN — February 22, 2010 @ 1:16 pm |
For all the time that Mr. Rosenbaum has had a column here, one would think he had learned something about his opponents. He paints his opposing Tea Party people as anarchists, which they are not. While laws and regulation are necessary for society, we have gone too far on the regulating end when our legislators support and vote for bills that can be over two thousand pages long- without reading them.
I will be purchasing five copies of a book written by someone I know. Damned if I will ever purchase any books that Mr. Rosenbaum has written. Sorry Ron, your ignorant sneers masquerading as articles do not incline me to purchase your creations.
Comment by Gringo — February 22, 2010 @ 2:32 pm |
Mr. Rosenbaum:
I’d have a higher degree of respect for your intellectual capacity if your headline didn’t misspell a simple word like “value.”
Here’s a hint. The first letter of “value” is not “c”.
And you have the ability to edit posts… us poor benighted conservative commenters do not. And it’s still misspelled.
Imagine that.
Comment by ConservativeWanderer — February 22, 2010 @ 4:38 pm |
What did you think of THIS display of anarchy by people who LOVE big, bloated government like you, Ron?
Disgusting isn’t it? 😯
Please show me the images of Tea Partiers trashing property while demonstrating?????
Comment by Delia — February 22, 2010 @ 4:44 pm |
Hey, folks
A category error I keep seeing, which someone ought to clear up: Anarchy is not lawlessness: it’s a political philosophy based on highly autonomous localities and (maybe?) with some loose federalism (not sure). The lawless thing is a secondary and bastardized meaning, wholly divorced from the words origins, and actually brought about through a sort of re-definition campaign by the movement’s enemies in the early twentieth century. Some of you guys might sort of dig anarchy. And I don’t mean that at all facetiously. Read up on it. I intend to, as I am undernourished in this regard.
Comment by Tim Rinaldi — February 22, 2010 @ 5:25 pm |
To 10. Tim Rinaldi
As always your a day late and a dollar short… thanks for telling everyone something they already know… also where is your cowardly ass in the other thread….?
Comment by robotech master — February 22, 2010 @ 5:59 pm |
Don’t worry! Coming back for you soon. And nice drug dealing idiom! By the way: cowardly? My real is on here, Megatron.
Comment by Tim Rinaldi — February 22, 2010 @ 6:16 pm |
*real name*
Comment by Tim Rinaldi — February 22, 2010 @ 6:17 pm |
“A category error I keep seeing, which someone ought to clear up: Anarchy is not lawlessness”
But you’re okay with Ron’s category error of Tea Party === lawlessness?
“By the way: cowardly? My real is on here, Megatron.”
Way to go with Ron’s own little insults.
But here’s the main problem with the PJM system. You might really be Tim Rinaldi but there’s no way to verify it. Anyone can write any username.
Which is odd that Ron posts here, given his dream of having it become a socially unsavory to frequent a site that allows anonymous commenting. One wonders why he’s posting on a site that’s so repulsive to him.
It’d be nice if he broached that subject. But that’d also require him to broach the vast gulf between his views on the Tea Parties and the broader PJM editorial policy.
Odd that Ron doesn’t call out his boss for being an accessory to something that’s “infecting” conservatives with insanity.
But don’t worry, we’re the cowards for posting replies.
Comment by Jack — February 22, 2010 @ 6:31 pm |
To 14. Jack
“Odd that Ron doesn’t call out his boss for being an accessory to something that’s “infecting” conservatives with insanity.”
A good point ron needs to write a piece on how Roger L Simon is supporting terrorists/racists/hate mongers who wish to burn DC to the ground and kill everyone….and how a website named pajamasmedia.com is just a front for terrorist recruiting…
lol that would be epic though lol I may even pay to read that…. even better if he did a video.
Comment by robotech master — February 22, 2010 @ 6:39 pm |
I’m about as flattered as Ron would probably be appalled that you’d think I could be him. Thanks, Jack. And as for the tea party being lawlessness> I mean, are we really accountable for everything we don’t say? Not that I have a high opinion of the tea party movement. They seem like some pretty dumb potatoes to me. But I don’t know anything about them being anti-lawfulness. All that said, a lot of them do seem to have some very ideological and not too thoughtful views on de-regulation, and I’m sorry, as the dumber group, they are just always more suspect for violence, as violence is always more likely to come from those who don’t think too good.
Comment by Tim Rinaldi — February 22, 2010 @ 6:45 pm |
“I’m about as flattered as Ron would probably be appalled that you’d think I could be him. Thanks, Jack.”
Yeah, that’s your ego being rampant. Especially since I refer to Ron as a sepreate entity from you, twice.
Personally, I doubt Ron reads this let alone comments under a pseudonym. My point was that we have no more evidence that you’re Tim Rinaldi than you’re John Smith.
“But I don’t know anything about them being anti-lawfulness.”
Not about you. It’s about Ron’s strawman that the Tea Party wants to “smash” all government.
Yes RM. It would be interesting if Ron wrote such a piece.
But I’m betting he’ll find some new sin of the Tea Party. Maybe they’re causing anti-science that’s killing Cap and Trade.
Comment by Jack — February 22, 2010 @ 6:53 pm |
Nah I bet his next piece is on how childish the tea party movement is because they tattletale on everyone(of course after a video is post of some obama thug attacking a tea party senior citizen with a walker and stomping his face into mash).
Comment by robotech master — February 22, 2010 @ 6:58 pm |
Ah…you are right. I read it incorrectly. How embarrassing. And especially since this is my real name.
Comment by Tim Rinaldi — February 22, 2010 @ 6:59 pm |
Inquiry… if that really was Tim’s real name, why would he try so hard to convince of it? Seems to me that a person who is confident in the truth is rarely so defensive, they just sit back and let the silly accusations roll off their back like water off a duck.
In short, methinks he doth protest too much.
Comment by ConservativeWanderer — February 22, 2010 @ 8:55 pm |
To 20. ConservativeWanderer
I wouldn’t be sure about that it highly depends on his personalty… take point in case me I consider my call sign robotech master as much as a real name or even more so then my given name…
Unless someone seen him post over a decent period of time its hard to judge something like that.
Comment by robotech master — February 22, 2010 @ 9:09 pm |
It wasn’t the Knights of Labor, the AFL, the UMW, the CIO, or even the USW . Nor was it the likes of Gompers, Lewis, or Murry. It wasn’t the coal miners suffering near starvation to uphold a strike and fighting Pinkertons tooth and claw, and it couldn’t have been the type of brave people shot down in the streets at Republic Steel. No, it was FDR that saved capitalism from itself.
I guess leftists can’t see past their love of big government and recognize the fact that the people themselves rise up and take care of themselves in a capitalist system. It’s beginning to look like they’re going to have a major uprising once again, and this time it will be against the very FDR yellow brick road Ron thinks was our salvation.
Have a nice day
Comment by rashputin — February 23, 2010 @ 2:30 pm |
I took an entire semester of history on FDR and the New Deal. It amazed me how they could stumble from one disastrous program to the next always promising to make things better while making them worse.
New Dealers claim they would try anything that worked – Bull. They never considered cutting spending and leaving the economy to make its own recovery.
Comment by Old Soldier — February 23, 2010 @ 6:25 pm |