Ron Rosenbaum, Writer

June 11, 2009

The Vicious Hatred For Obama is Becoming Worrisome, Especially…

Filed under: Uncategorized — ronrosenbaumwriter @ 11:24 am

… when viewed in the light of the two recent murders by right wing fanatics.

Spare me any comments to the effect that I don’t know the difference between dissent and murder. I do. And I disapprove of the government making value judgments on political opinions on civil liberties grounds (the Homeland Security Dept’s report). And don’t try to saddle me with cries committed by Leftists. I’m an anti-Marist liberal. I don’t engage in subliterate hate-speech the way so many anonymous commenters here do. That’s the problem I’ve been trying to point out in several recent posts: anonyous comenters suffeing fro cyber disinhibition are creating a toxic and erhas dangerous culture that can whip themselves into lynchob frenzy and eventualy…who knows.

The problem is that judging from the comments here, we have already got to a point where there is very little dissent–in the sense of reasoned political arguments–but a vast torrent of vicious abuse and insult, sputtering, mostly anonymous, abuse that is the substitute those without an ability to reason articulately use. And a culture of verbal violence can create the conditions for non verbal violence.

Your hatred for Obama–he can do nothing right, he is a man with evil designs–is nothing short of patholgical

And one without much of sense of humor. Tell me do you really get off on the “joke” of caling Obama “The One”, or “Nobama” still. any of you? Witty! Infantile name-calling such a sohisticated form of political discourse.

For a good majority of the commenters, for “coment thread conservatives” as Peggy Noonan called them, there is only one side, they can only hold one idea in their head at a time, it seems. Obama bad! Everything he does bad. A sohisticated argument which is advanced by labored witless attempts to make fun of Barack Obama for everything from his name to his race.

While I was one of the first to denounce Bush Derangement Syndrome on the Left, Obama Deragement Syndrome has gotten more extreme, often verbally violent and thuggish. I see this in the comments to any favorable mention of the President, especialy from the legion of cowardly anonyous absuers among the commenters, most of whom I suspect can’t stand the fact Obama is manifestly smarter than they are.

Fitzgerald once said the sign of a first rate intellect was the ability to hold two conflicting ideas in it at the same time. Obama Derangement Syndrome types not only have second or third rate minds by this definition, they are consumed by irrational hatred unable to conceive of the possibility that they can disagree with his politics without spewing hatred for his person.

It is the personal nature of the hatred whih is troubling. Obama Derangement Types are getting more and more verbally violent, they are creating a culture which has the potential to encourage some disorderly minds to go beyond verbal violence, alas. For them, clearly not well read in history, Obama has become not just a Presdient from the other party, duly elected by the people, however much they disagee or voted otherwise. No, he is some malign spirit, the devil incarnate, they are no longer intellectually able, if they ever were, to make a political argument. It’s just hate, hate, hate, insult, insult and more hate. Check it out, you few rational opponents of Obama who post here. Do you really want to be associated with the ugly thuggish verbal violence of Obama haters? One day you’ll turn on the television and regret you didn’t speak out for reason and moderation.



  1. between the posse comitatus types and the new message from Bin Laden, it is a perfect storm of danger and hate; reminds me of Adlai in Dallas, September 1963

    Comment by charlie finch — June 12, 2009 @ 7:48 am | Reply

  2. Ron, as vile and irrational as your thread ranters are, just how numerous are they? Can we say they make up a sizeable swath of American conservatives?
    Given just how fast someone can post his fury, all news/commentary sites are bound to be top heavy in this kind of stuff.

    Comment by Stuart — June 12, 2009 @ 6:43 pm | Reply

  3. “reminds me of Adlai in Dallas, September 1963”

    Adlai Stevenson was lightly hit across the head by a weird woman—with a cardboard sign. This admittedly was not a nice thing to do, but it was nothing more than that. The other protesters did not lay a finger on him. But are you trying to hint that this sort of anger evolved to the point that by November 22 another right-winger assassinated President John F. Kennedy? If so, you need to get your facts straight. JFK was murdered by a committed Communist! Lee Harvey Oswald was enraged at our capitalist system, widespread racial prejudice, and opposition to the Fidel Castro regime.

    Comment by David Thomson — June 12, 2009 @ 8:38 pm | Reply

  4. Yawn…!

    Comment by aloysiusmiller — June 13, 2009 @ 11:27 am | Reply

  5. Why are you “anti-Marist”? It’s a fine institution.

    Comment by Slampo — June 14, 2009 @ 10:40 am | Reply

  6. I really do see your point Ron but you are really making some stretches here. I cant believe in an attempt to lower the vitriol in your comment section you make the assertion that the recent shootings were done a.) by right wingers and b.) because their hate was drummed up in comments sections. As one who considers himself on the right (and also one who comments on posts such as yours) I find this extremely insulting and a poor first step in improving the tenor.

    This brings me to my second point. Leading up to the election we were told by everyone everywhere that Obama was the smartest man alive. He was the one that could unite us. He was the first pst racial candidate. Blah blah blah blah blah. Many of us saw right through it as bs. For every question we raised we were given assurances that he was the one. He was far more moderate, far more reasoned than any other democrat since Bill Clinton. We even had prominent republicans wetting themselves to support him. Still we doubted and after we lost the election, those of us who didnt support Obama and thought McCain too moderate too were told that we were wrong and we were at faylt for our party losing. Well, it didnt take long to prove us right and every Obama believer wrong. So as painful as it is, what you here are the bitter I told you so’s of men and women watching their country being dismantled brick by brick.

    I dont hate Obama and I do agree that our side sinking to the level of the Kos kids is wrong and needs to stop. I think we on the right better get our stuff together too and credit him for things we see him doing well too. We must realize that if we do give him credit where it is do, when we need to absolutely clobber him, Pelosi, Reid, Frank, Dodd, Durbin et al we will at least have a bit of credibility with the center.

    So while I get your point and share it, spare us the moral equivalence to the murderous nutcases that share very little in common with the right or we may have to start calling the left out for all the homegrown jihadists running around killing people. By the way, dont the guys that tried to blow up the synogogues have more in common with the holocost museum shooter than your average pro israel conservative? How about Jeremiah Wright? What’s he think about them Jews? I spose they are right wing too?

    Comment by Lloyd — June 15, 2009 @ 8:32 pm | Reply

  7. As a GM bondholder, small business owner and net taxpayer my loathing of Obama as a leader is well justified. As for the killing of Tiller, excuse me, he performed 60 thousand abortions. Many of them late term abortions. Infants that could have survived outside the womb. No different than. Mengele. That does not justify the killing of him outside the law but it is nauseating to see the wailing on behalf of this monster. The shooter at the Holocaust Museum was no right winger. He was simply a racial socialist. All these types always are against big business and capitalism in general and their economic philosophies are at best a form of populism. They guys are only right wing in the sense they are to the right of Joseph Stalin.

    Comment by cubanbob — June 21, 2009 @ 8:14 am | Reply

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