Ron Rosenbaum, Writer

April 5, 2009

Here It Is for Those Who Don't Believe People Can Be…

Filed under: Uncategorized — ronrosenbaumwriter @ 2:36 pm

…so credulous. The latest “Coast to Coast” Show summary on 2012. Read it and weep.
The man who first introduced the date December 21, 2012 into mass consciousness, Jose Arguelles discussed how he uncovered the Mayan codes, including the Harmonic Convergence (1987), and the need to return to natural time. He was joined by Stephanie South, whose biography of Arguelles has just been published.

Arguelles believes that a solar flare will deliver a knock out punch to modern civilization in 2012. Satellites, the power grid, and communications will all go down, creating an irrevocable event, he said. The positive aspect of this is that we’ll be placed back in “natural time” and the biosphere can clean itself of effects from the industrial/mechanized system, he noted.

“The early Mayans did have ET-type contacts from very advanced beings, “telepathic transmissions through different dimensions where the fractal properties of a particular form remain constant through the dimensions, so they get reconstructed in the dimension where they’re being targeted,” he explained.

“Arguelles is an advocate for the 13 moon-28 day calendar, which was one of the systems the Mayans used. Living in this natural cycle, as opposed to our irregular calendar, can bring about a harmonious shift in consciousness, he said. A person will become more spiritual, with new perceptions coming into their mind with the 28 day calendar, South added. After 2012, he sees humanity synchronizing with the cosmic civilization, and the beginning of a whole new evolutionary cycle.”

Right, sure. How exacty did that “Harmonic Convergence” work out? Anyone but nutballs remember it? Yet people take “prophets” like this seriously.

Don’t you love the pseudo science he endows “E.T. type contacts” with: the whole “fractal properties”/”telepathic transmission” idiocy.

Here’s his website and book so you’ll see I’m not making it up.
The Mayan Factor: Path Beyond Technology

Why am I so fascinated with unmitigated full bloom looniness? Shouldn’t we just laugh it off? Unfortunately nonsense like this has led to millions of dead from religious wars over just such clashing idiocies. I think it reminds us that this kind of baseless belief is at the heart of all religions and that man has suffered immeasurably since the beginning of civilization from it and that, it’s looking more likely that it will cause the death of enlightment civilization, just a brief candle in the vast darkness of ignorance.

It’s tragic and not to take it seriously in whatever its latest manifestation is a mistake. Because-check it out on Google–the 2012 cult gains more and more brainless adherents every day.

As the time grows nearer I intend to focus even more atttention on the cumulative stupidity of this one and LMAO when its followers realize what fools they are on December 22, 2012 and have to come up with some lame excuse for their folly.



  1. This kind of looniness always pops up when the true God is mocked. Some time do a search of the beliefs of Bill Maher, notorious atheist. It will start falling into place.

    Comment by aloysiusmiller — April 5, 2009 @ 3:18 pm | Reply

  2. I don’t know about these loons, sounds like a West Coast thing, but there’s something of an apocalyptic feel in the air. It started under Bush, but it’s really picked up with Obama.

    To me, it’s more like the 70s, with a growing general feeling of powerlessness; and like the 70s, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a few major riots break out in the not-too-distant future. Maybe it’s different in liberal-land (probably is), but I suspect this notion of things falling apart, the center cannot hold, might even spread to their carefully manicured lawns in time.

    Comment by Rob — April 5, 2009 @ 5:58 pm | Reply

  3. Gosh, he sounds like some professor at a teachers college. I speak from experience. And yes, nonsense like that has dummified millions of students in this country.

    Comment by chuck — April 5, 2009 @ 10:59 pm | Reply

  4. […] Here’s Rosenbaum: […]

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  5. “Unfortunately nonsense like this has led to millions of dead from religious wars over just such clashing idiocies.”

    The reality is that this rarely happens. Most of these peculiar groups disappear and are quickly forgotten. We must prioritize our time and effort. Could it be that Ron Rosenbaum prefers to be distracted—instead of dealing with far greater threats? The politically correct left-wing community could care less if he spends time going after weirdos like Jose Arguelles. However, they are unforgiving if one directly confronts the very real and here and now threat of Islamic nihilism.

    Comment by David Thomson — April 6, 2009 @ 5:36 am | Reply

  6. Just as 9/11 followed the false panic over the year 2000, some supervirus will probably knock out the world tech network, after 2012 has passed. Manufactured paranoid fears are just a rationalization of the real dangers around us, a way to create the illusion of control through myth. The American camp meetings of the 1830s, focusing on different dates of judgment proclaimed by various divines neatly forshadowed the Civil War, for example.

    Comment by charlie finch — April 6, 2009 @ 11:49 am | Reply

  7. I agree the 2012/Mayan Calendar business is sheer nonsense, but it’s no less nonsensical to say “…baseless belief is at the heart of all religions.” Religious belief may not be capable of scientifc substantiation in a way that would satisfy a modern secular rationalist, but neither is science the sole source of truth and knowledge about the world. Just because something can’t be scientifically proven doesn’t mean it is “baseless” (that way lies “scientism”).

    Besides, as best I can tell, the whole 2012 scare/industry is based more on pseduo-science than religious belief (though it does appeal to certain “New Agers”). Anyway, let’s not denigrate all religious belief simply because some New Age kooks are pushing pseudo-scientific fads (I’d bet most of the guys on Noory’s show don’t really believe it themselves; they’re just hawking related books and merchandise, much like the Y2K scaremongers did a decade ago).

    Comment by Dennis — April 6, 2009 @ 2:55 pm | Reply

  8. Of course I believe people can be so credulous.

    They elected Obama, didn’t they?

    Comment by Evil Pundit — April 6, 2009 @ 4:54 pm | Reply

  9. The irreligious frequently tend to be among the most superstitious. New age spritualism is made to order for people who reject traditional religion and these folks are into quackery big time.

    Even Bill Maher is something of a superstitious crackpot.

    Comment by aloysiusmiller — April 6, 2009 @ 5:15 pm | Reply

  10. Why am I under moderation? I have posted to this blog several times. If my previous posts were offensive why weren’t they removed?

    Comment by aloysiusmiller — April 7, 2009 @ 6:02 am | Reply

  11. Obama is showing tremendous courage and grace under pressure. To be the vessel of people’s hopes worldwide would crush a lesser person and, as the arrest of a would be assassin in Turkey demonstrates, an invitation to tragedy. He is too left wing on the military for me and too right wing (by alot) on the banks, but these differences matter little compared to his transformative power in dicy times. I believe that, just as we needed to support President Bush after 9/11, we should support President Obama now. Criticize: yes Villify: never

    Comment by charlie finch — April 7, 2009 @ 7:35 am | Reply

  12. So pray tell what is wrong with the comment you haven’t posted?

    Comment by aloysiusmiller — April 7, 2009 @ 8:54 am | Reply

  13. I rest my case.

    Comment by Evil Pundit — April 7, 2009 @ 1:07 pm | Reply

  14. Call it the Prince Myshkin Administration: Obama hires actor Kai Penn from “Harold and Kumar” as “liaison to the Pacific and Asian communities” Hillary Clinton jocularly hands the Russian Foreign Minister a red Button. The Queen gets an IPod with Royal Porn films of herself. Wither goest the Holy Fool?/ Astride Sancho Biden/ On his Demo mule/ His rhetoric uplifting, hollow/ Beckoning us to bow and follow/ Into the dark and dreary woods/ Past the racists in their hoods/ The bankers in their caps and bells/ The soldiers coming out of Hell/ Is there an illusion soothing, calmer/ Than the Joyous Shade/ Barack Obama?

    Comment by charlie finch — April 7, 2009 @ 1:36 pm | Reply

  15. See what the irreligious are really like. Rational? Oh no:

    Comment by aloysiusmiller — April 8, 2009 @ 5:19 am | Reply

  16. “Unfortunately nonsense like this has led to millions of dead from religious wars over just such clashing idiocies.”

    The death toll from religious wars is a tiny fraction of the mortality inflicted by atheists under the sway of belief systems like “scientific socialism.”

    Comment by Banjo — April 10, 2009 @ 9:23 am | Reply

  17. Of course, one possibility is that the obsession with 2012 becomes so widespread that society manages to create it’s own disaster. That is the nasty thing about predictions for social breakdowns. One can make them come true intentionally.

    Comment by Class Clown — April 14, 2009 @ 3:34 am | Reply

  18. Re Evil Pundits comment that voting for Obama was a sign of credulity: there’s a much stronger case to be made for voting for Bush, twice! Obama had little to do with creating the economic meltdown we’re suffering from today; Obama did not sign off on memo after memo gutting the fundamental guarantees of the Constitution.

    Comment by The Old Mole — April 15, 2009 @ 6:26 pm | Reply

  19. Normally, I would have ignored this kind of craziness, but my daughter asked me about the Maya, and the year 2012, and I did some checking and found a bunch of book titles. I ended up buying, and almost finishing: “2012: The Return of Quetzalcoatl.” It’s by one of your paisans, Ron (Daniel Pinchbeck), and it’s not half bad. This guy obviously believes some of the tin-hat prophecies, but he debunks more than he applauds, and Arguelles is one he debunks. I just got back from a trip to Mexico City. I sat on the top of the Pyramid of the Sun, and all I heard was wind.

    Comment by Donald Dalton — April 16, 2009 @ 7:45 am | Reply

  20. Daniel Pinchbeck and I are old friends. He wrote profiles of me for “The Village Voice” and “The Art Newspaper” in 1998. He sees himself as the successor to the late Robert Anton Wilson and holds court at Angelica’s on East 12th Street. Daniel is the son of an old girlfriend of Kerouac’s and the painter Peter Pinchbeck His bris was a tub of ‘shrooms and his baptism an arrow from Burroughs. Paul Krassner knows his name: strictly the other side of the rainbow, the one unseen, and, thus , permanent.

    Comment by charlie finch — April 16, 2009 @ 10:23 am | Reply

  21. Thanks for that, Charlie. Sounds like quite the character.

    Comment by Donald Dalton — April 22, 2009 @ 8:55 am | Reply

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