Ron Rosenbaum, Writer

August 19, 2008

Obama Veep: Nunn is the One if You Want Gravitas; Biden has None

Filed under: Uncategorized — ronrosenbaumwriter @ 8:44 am

Since all my predictions about Obama made back in November, when the press was calling him dead in the water (look it up!) have all come true. (Win Iowa , lose New Hampshire, win nomination) I know the world will be hanging on this one, made shortly before noon Tuesday August 19.

(Okay I did, at a later date, predict Jim Webb as veep choice and that seems unlikely. He withdrew his name, though I wouldn’t rule out him being “persuaded”.)

But I do have a strong feeling now that if Obama is as smart and shrewd as I think he is (no drama, but no dreamer) and he wants gravitas, especially in the wake of Georgia, Russia and all that, he’ll have made up his mind when that mini war broke out last Friday. And would have chosen Sam Nunn.

Nunn’s flown under the radar for a lot of folk in the past decade, but he’s doggedly devoted himself to a forgotten but all-important cause: the reduction of nuclear weapons, security of the nuclear arsenals that remain, relentless attention to non proliferation. His Nuclear Threat Initiative organization has kept its eye on the prize–making us more secure in a proliferating nuclear environment–while nobody else has paid nearly enough attention to it.

It has meant that Nunn knows Russia, he’s dealt with civilian and military authorities on all levels for a decade. He’s someone who must distrust Putin, who won’t be fooled by him, but who can probably hit the ground running as the most knowledgeable person about dealing with him. And with his nukes. And with all the other nukes floating around.

So that’s my prediction: the choice of Nunn will be hailed as brilliant. And it will be.

But the choice of Biden? For gravitas? Give me a break. I’ll never forget sitting in the Senate gallery before an important (to those of us who care about civil liberties) vote on an idiot flag burning bill meant to pander to those historically ignorant enough not to realize America was founded by dissidents who wouldn’t bow down to a graven image.

Biden had co sponsored it in an attempt, supposedly, to head off a Constitutional Amendment. Bob Kerrey, who lost a leg in Vietnam–for love of country not a painted piece of cloth–wasn’t going along with this cynical ploy.

Anyway down on the Senate floor, shortly before Kerrey was to give a brilliant speech on the question, Biden came up to Kerrey and in an oil way put his arm around Kerrey as if, it’s all politics, and I thought I saw Kerrey cringe.

I wouldn’t blame him. Biden’s sagacity and earnestness act would only go over in the class of dummies that is the U.S. Senate.

If Obama doesn’t pick Nunn, he’ll have missed an opportunity. But go to that website anyway. You may not agree with his approach to the long obscured nuclear dilemmas we face, but it might shake you out of a state of denial. Props to Nunn for sticking with it.


  1. He should pick McCaskill, by far his best spokesperson from a must state, Missouri. Nunn is drying paint on the stump, plus his age nullifies the geriatric “issue”. If you want NSC cred, try Jane Harmon, or, even better Colin Powell. The most depressing thing about Barack is that he is recycling the NatSec handwringers, all of whom want post 9/11 redemption: Holbrooke, Tony Lake, Jim Steinberg. Where is the new blood?

    Comment by charlie finch — August 19, 2008 @ 9:37 am | Reply

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  3. Obama is neither smart nor shrewd. He can’t even find his birth certificate.

    Can’t yall just leave him along and let him eat his Waffle?

    Comment by Dolemite Johnson — August 19, 2008 @ 3:29 pm | Reply

  4. he should pick a minority

    Comment by David P — August 19, 2008 @ 5:29 pm | Reply

  5. so you’re basically saying that Obama should base his VP pick, solely based upon the events in Georgia over the last few days?

    That’s it?

    Then what happens if that situation gets solved? Pick another VP to help him deal with the economy, and then another to help him deal with Iraq, and then another to help him deal with our dependence on foreign oil?

    While picking Sam Nunn might be a good choice – to base it solely upon the events in George would prove Obama to be pretty shallow.

    Obama needs to add foreign and military experience. I didn’t think I’d need to remind people that Nunn was Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Comittee for many years and is widely recongized for his foreign policy and military expertise. it wasn’t “only Georgia”, but the fact that the former Soviet Union is looming as a huge issue, makes Nunn’s expertise there even more important.–r.r.

    Comment by Flint — August 19, 2008 @ 5:36 pm | Reply

  6. I doubt that “Obama is as smart and as shrewd as [Ron Rosenbaum] thinks he is.” There’s been little evidence of either in Obama’s campaign since he broke the tape on delegates for the nomination.

    Strictly in terms of winning the presidency, Obama’s best choice would be Hillary. Though I have no idea whether Hillary would accept, or what would happen should Obama/Hillary win in November.

    Comment by burroughs — August 19, 2008 @ 6:04 pm | Reply

  7. Nunn will be in his cabinet. He doesn’t have the fire to run. His pick will be a uniting pick for the party. If Hillary would have won, she would have picked Evan Bayh. Obama picks Bayh to unify the party. The convention becomes a big love fest.

    He will still lose Indiana.

    Comment by jeff — August 19, 2008 @ 6:53 pm | Reply

  8. Obama has a problem; he can’t pick a VP candidate that will outshine him. If he does, then the voters will have to ask themselves why are they voting for the top of the ticket instead of the bottom. Odds are he will pick an even more of a lightweight than him.

    Comment by cubanbob — August 19, 2008 @ 7:19 pm | Reply

  9. Inevitably, inexorably, and without any sense of shame, or, well, sense, he will listen to the siren song of identity politics without the intelligence to lash himself to the mast. It can’t be Hillary, so it will be Kathleen Sebelius. He can’t resist it.

    Comment by Herr Morgenholz — August 19, 2008 @ 7:42 pm | Reply

  10. Sam who?

    Apart from political wonks the average voter doesn’t know Sam Nunn from Adam. Is putting an old southern white guy on the ticket going to resonate with fence sitters?

    My bet is that Obama will chose a woman , no, not Hillary, either that chick from Kansas or the one from Missouri.

    Comment by Tolbert — August 19, 2008 @ 7:47 pm | Reply

  11. As smart as Obama is he would pick Nunn only if he thought it would get him the Catholic vote. 😉

    His only hope of assuaging the feminazies in his party is to pick a woman, and that’s exactly what he’ll do. Wonder if he’ll call her ‘honey’, too.

    Biden is a good fit. He’s a girlie man, dumber than Barrack, and probably won’t get mad if BO calls him honey. A big plus is that Biden is more feminine than Hillary.

    However Caroline Kennedy would be a keen choice because her ‘vast’ government ‘experience’ will not upstage his own. She’s the only person in America with a political name with LESS experience than him.

    If Obama tries to pick someone to plug all of the holes in his resume he’ll need several VPs.

    If he picks Hillary he should immediately hire a food taster.

    Comment by HRPKathy — August 19, 2008 @ 7:59 pm | Reply

  12. Choosing Nunn may well turn conservative Georgia into a blue state. He is still well respected here.

    I’ve hated to see the press stop talking about Nunn recently because, as you pointed out, he balances out Obama’s lack of experience and foreign policy. Also Nunn has been out of the spotlight so long – most people don’t remember him – don’t believe he would outshine Obama.

    Comment by Rich — August 19, 2008 @ 8:15 pm | Reply

  13. Good gawd…..Barry the marxist and has-been Sam Nunn….ROFL!

    McGovern would love it……he would no longer be the worst beatdown.

    Of course, if McCain takes someone like Lieberman then Barry could take Satan and win.

    Comment by exDemocrat — August 19, 2008 @ 8:17 pm | Reply

  14. I agree that Sam Nunn is Obama’s best possible choice for VP. Nunn would bring foreign policy experience to the ticket and appeal to centrist swing voters.

    Comment by rightdemocrat — August 19, 2008 @ 8:22 pm | Reply

  15. Where is his career to date has Obama ever shown gravitas? I’m not sure this is part of the post modern outlook, is it?

    Comment by bb — August 19, 2008 @ 8:49 pm | Reply

  16. Is there such a person????

    Comment by Oeuf — August 19, 2008 @ 9:09 pm | Reply

  17. The premise of this article is that Obama is smart. Well, maybe. But not exceptionally. He seems a rather hum-drum mind to me. I got about fifty pages into “The Audacity of Hope” and tossed it aside – and that was before I knew its title was derived from the horrid Reverend Wright. What’s astonishing about Obama is that the Democratic Party nominated him with so little real experience. No wonder he’s imploding.

    Comment by Edith L. — August 19, 2008 @ 9:50 pm | Reply

  18. He seems a rather hum-drum mind to me.

    Edith — Me too. I have yet to hear anyone–Ron Rosenbaum or otherwise–explain specifically how Obama is so smart.

    Sure, someone who can graduate MCL from Harvard Law has something going for him. But that aside, what has Obama ever said or done that has been so remarkable? He has written two books essentially about himself. He has not written any papers of note–actually no papers at all, which is quite unusual for the editor of a law review and a college professor. There are no big wins from his years as a community organizer or a state senator or as a US senator.

    Yet many people, especially people who fancy themselves as smart, consider Obama really, really smart. I don’t get it. IMO Obama is an agile chameleon who can inspire people to project all sorts of wonderful things upon him. I grant that is a special talent, but I wouldn’t call it smartness.

    Comment by burroughs — August 19, 2008 @ 11:05 pm | Reply

  19. Guys,

    Michael Moore, the movie director, sent me an email about the idea of Barack Obama asking Caroline Kennedy to be his running mate.

    Actually, I think it’s a great idea.

    I thought somebody might be interested in the reply I sent back. So here it is.

    From: “peepersrachel Add To Address Book |
    Subject: Re: “Caroline: Pull a Cheney!” An Open Letter to Caroline Kennedy (head of the Obama VP search team) from Michael Moore

    Dear Michael,

    In my humble opinion, your suggestion that Caroline Kennedy in a sense nominate herself
    for the position of Vice President is not just a bold, brilliant idea, but a veritable
    stroke of genius. A wonderful way for Barack Obama and the Democratic
    Party to pave the road to victory.

    If Barack, in fact, goes down the ingenious path you suggest, I, personally, will be
    totally behind it, helping to pave the way, working with every fabric of my being to see
    to it that the light of hope floods this dark tunnel of despair we’ve suffered through for the past four George Bush years.

    Needless to say, I’m totally in favor of your VP selection. Although I
    should add, with one caveat.

    To wit, that Caroline will agree to join Barack in pressing for more than words to finally heal
    the open wound that, because of the treatment of Native Americans and African Americans,
    has festered country wide for more than two centuries. What we need are, as Bararck states over and over again, words backed up by deeds.

    What Barack firmly believes is needed so that the descendants of slaves and Native
    Americans who have passed on can truly believe this country cares not only about them,
    but is serious about redressing the incalculable pain and suffering; unconscionable treatment visited on their ancestors with wanton disregard for decency and justice, are

    Reparations represent the least we can do; a tangible acknowledgment that wrongs need to be righted.

    If Caroline’s on board with reparations, then I’m foursquare on board with this unbeatable
    ticket. In this upcoming contest, we can only beat ourselves. And without a Obama/Kennedy ticket, I’m afraid the result in November will be a stunning defeat. In my book, that is unacceptable.

    At the same time, I’ve hardly been able to accept Barack Obama’s anemic performance
    Saturday night last. More than troublesome is the fact that, while Barack was
    obviously off his game, John McCain was on his. Bright. Quick. Sharp as a tack.
    Fearless. Believable. All those words filled pundits’ pens after the dust had cleared and
    McCain was declared by all impartial observers to have been the clear winner.

    For once and for all, the, “He’s too old” line has to go. Clearly, he’s not.

    The narrative on McCain for the rest of the campaign can be summed up in three
    words that Republicans are passing around like champagne at a wedding celebration.

    Duty. Honor. Country.

    They’re especially troublesome because they’re proprietary to John McCain. With
    believability and conviction, only McCain can use them. From Barack, they’d be like
    trying to fit a square peg into a round hole. They’d be meaningless.

    Barack is something great. But something else.

    Figuring out a way to counter the McCain narrative is the charge for the people people
    spearheading the Obama campaign. Unfortunately, and I hate to admit it, but I harbor
    doubts whether David Plouffe and David Axelrod are up to the job.

    If something called the Communication Arts Awards Annual is the bible for creative
    genius, I’m afraid the Obama people haven’t read it, not to mention probably haven’t even
    heard of it. Instead of having a Bill Bernbach type creative director in charge, you have
    Barack’s people who, sad to say, don’t really know marketing. They know politics.
    Close but no cigar.

    I was hugely disappointed, for instance, that, when the campaign began, they dusted
    off a hackneyed, overused, under-thought old expression, “The kind of change
    you can believe in”. My specific problem is that it’s so insipidly general.

    Unlike McCain’s “Duty Honor Country” or its present form, “America First”, Barack’s
    campaign line is generic. In other words, anybody could use it. It’s as bland as it
    is brandless. Anybody could say it. In fact, they have. It’s as old as politics. Not good. McCain’s says something meaningful about him. Barack’s line is hot, platitudinal air.

    What had made Barack, in my mind and most everyone else’s, the hands down presumptive next President is his superman-like ability to deliver speeches. I thought Mario Cuomo was good. Well, Barack makes everybody else look like a little leaguer trying to play in the majors.
    Compared to Barack’s ability to give a speech, McCain is playing T-ball.

    As things stand now, though, Barack needs some hits. I think, to carry the baseball
    analogy a few more outs, I think it’s the home half of the 7th and Barack unbelievably is
    behind by a run.

    If Barack puts Caroline in the starting lineup and bats her number two, I think Michael Moore
    hits one out of the park. On the other hand, if Obama views it as just a Michael Moore daydream and puts somebody else on the ticket, that, to my way of thinking, leads us down a road we’ve unfortunately traveled before.

    Because I think he’d be punching his ticket to defeat.

    Let’s win one for the home team.
    Rachel Peepers
    Charleston, Illinois 61920

    Comment by Rachel Peepers — August 19, 2008 @ 11:09 pm | Reply

  20. Nunn is pretty anti-gay for a Democrat. It would piss off a lot of GLBT folks.

    Comment by Tony — August 19, 2008 @ 11:15 pm | Reply

  21. Obama is the new smart: well-schooled in the lefty Ivy League elite environment that churns out Marxist academicians, journalists and politicians. This smart is not about being expert in your field, achieving measurable success, publishing peer review articles or otherwise outshining the rest of us; it is about towing the line and fitting in with the above crowd of self-congratulators. He IS that kind of smart.

    His smartness is nothing we non-‘elites’ recognize — and plenty of us went to college and know what experts and achievers are. He ain’t that.

    Comment by Peg C. — August 20, 2008 @ 3:06 am | Reply

  22. Obama is the best teleprompter reader since Walter Cronkite. This alone makes him supremely qualified to be the president. Therefore all he need is someone who can program the teleprompter and the ideal team will be born.

    Comment by SAF — August 20, 2008 @ 4:35 am | Reply

  23. I was thinking Jimmy Carter myself. He’d have some of the same virtues that Cheney has – no one would want anything to happen to Obama, because the alternative is worse. And, because the majority of Obama’s supporters can’t tell the difference between Carter’s naval service and McCain’s, he’d neutralize that advantage. He’d also help Obama kill any thought of nuclear power.

    Comment by gawaine — August 20, 2008 @ 4:36 am | Reply

  24. In truth Sam Nunn would have been a far better Presidential canidate
    than Oboma .San Nunn has all kinds of experience not just in foreign affairs .
    {BUT } here’s the BUT and Rub .Sam Nunn is a old fashioned grass Roots Conservative Democrat .
    Hardly a racial high Tax Socialist .Remember Sam Nunn comes from Ga ,
    Which means old line Democrats are very Conservative there .
    That is why Sam Numm served so many years in Congress coming from a traditional state .
    Even my Conservative friends in Ga. admitted they voted for him many times .
    But they wouldn’t on a Oboma ticket . It would be like Oil and Water .

    Comment by ReCon USMC — August 20, 2008 @ 5:14 am | Reply

  25. Obama has a huge dilemma – if he choses a “brilliant” VP that is extremely capable with outstanding credentials, it will only serve to underscore his persona as the naive idiot he is! If he choses someone with less creditials, the “team” will be a total joke. The man is an empty suit, he cannot make a decision…thus the lastest suspense. And, in this case, once it is announced, he cannot stammer and sutter then change his mind…the cat will be out of the bag! I am betting his hubris wins, and the the Democratic Party loses!!!!

    Comment by The Wizard — August 20, 2008 @ 6:20 am | Reply

  26. I always cringe when I hear “smart “used as a modifying verb. Smart money, smart choice , smart looking. In the end it denotes the rest of us as stupid and the elite (knowledgeable) as superior. Most likely Sam Nunn is no smarter than Funky Winkerbean.
    A wise person or a loyal person is far more important in the scheme of things.
    I don’t know much about Sam Nunn but picking a southern white insider doesn’t particularly fit Obamas image. Maybe Wesley Snipes or wide receiver Chad Johnson.

    Comment by WR Jonas — August 20, 2008 @ 6:30 am | Reply

  27. If Nunn really is brilliant, he will refuse the nomination. Who wants to be known as a failed candidate for vice president?

    Comment by Fred Beloit — August 20, 2008 @ 7:03 am | Reply

  28. Strictly in terms of winning the presidency, Obama’s best choice would be Hillary.

    It’s probably a safe bet that Obama has been apprised of the infamous Clinton Body Count by now. I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but I also recognize that some phenomena are simply too ominous to wave off with a cluck of the tongue. Regardless who’s responsible, the trail of mysterious deaths associated with the Clinton administration is one of those phenomena. In that light, it’s more than a tad macabre that Hillary was the one to broach the topic of assassination first in this election (and as savvy as she is, one would think she would have realized that, no?).

    So I have to completely agree with HRPKathy.

    Comment by goy — August 20, 2008 @ 7:06 am | Reply

  29. My prediction, FWIW, is that Obama’s VP choice will be hum-drum. Either unsurprising (Biden, Kaine, Bayh) or uninspiring — some dark horse that no one will care about.

    The question is whether the “Obama is so smart and shrewd” crowd, e.g. Ron Rosenbaum, will recalibrate their opinion as it continues to become clear that Obama is just another politician, now that he must start making real choices in the real world, as opposed to walking in the hope and change clouds.

    Comment by burroughs — August 20, 2008 @ 7:38 am | Reply

  30. Mr. Rosenbaum said his prediction hinges on whether if” Obama is as smart as he thinks he is. Unlike so many amateur message-board pundits Mr. Rosenbaum is acting like a responsible commentator by refusing to spout his opinions regarding Obama’s intelligence as if they were undeniable facts.

    That’s the kind of tactic, unfortunately, used by the army of anti-Obama pundits who infect every news story, blog post and email box with their misinformation and mischaracterizations about the candidate.

    The endless stream of anonymous internet nobodies spewing how Obama is stupid, unAmerican, anti-Christian, jaded, immoral, racist etc.. is tiring at best and frightening at worst.

    I feel genuine pity for those who believe and present as fact such blatantly biased and unfounded opinions about a candidate.

    All most of us really know about him or any candidate is what he wants us to hear and what his political opponents want us to fear.

    I have to admit I too am puzzled by the way thinking of Obama as “smart” seems to outrage so many commenters, who evidently think they are true brainiacs. One said Obama had no “measurable success” in his “chosen field”. Like winning the presidential nomination isn’t “measurable success”. Why are these people so outraged at the idea Obama might be smart? Curious.–r.r.

    Comment by Kasey Rasmussen — August 20, 2008 @ 9:04 am | Reply

  31. In consideration of Obama’s declarations to defund US Defense spending as well as to end Nuclear Weapon development, the One should just go ahead and get the real deal as his VP, Ted Turner, the NTI Co-chair of Sam Nunn.

    Comment by Moultrie — August 20, 2008 @ 9:32 am | Reply

  32. Superman didn’t need a sidekick so Obama doesn’t either.

    Seriously, it doesn’t matter who he picks it’s a losing ticket either way.
    Hillbillery would be his best pick but even she knows a loser when she sees one.

    Comment by JAY — August 20, 2008 @ 10:05 am | Reply

  33. Kasey Rasmussen, you mean after SEVEN freakin years of hearing how stupid Bush is, even though he was elected Governor and then President (twice) NOW it’s suddenly off limits. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I guess we wont be able to compare Obama to a chimpanzee now either.

    Comment by JAY — August 20, 2008 @ 10:13 am | Reply

  34. Looks like a very sensible analysis and I have a strong feeling your analysis might be true.

    Comment by Roomy Naqvy — August 20, 2008 @ 10:33 am | Reply

  35. The proof Obama is smart is that he’s a Democrat. That’s the way the press always views it. I’m an old broad who has been around for many presidential elections, starting with Adlai Stevenson vs. Eisenhower, when I was in high school and doing an assignment about the candidates. Stevenson was portrayed as a genius as were Carter and Clinton. Gore and Kerry though, were merely “highly intelligent,”vs. the “moron” who opposed them. Nearly all Republican candidates for POTUS are either “stupid” (remember what was said about Reagan, Ford and both Bushes?) or “evil” (Richard Nixon). The press and pundits determine these things and let’s not forget it.

    Comment by Barbara — August 20, 2008 @ 11:38 am | Reply

  36. McCain, 20 Million votes.


    Just doesn’t sound right.

    Comment by George Clarke — August 20, 2008 @ 11:43 am | Reply

  37. Ron R. — I’m happy to agree that Obama is smart, just as I’m happy to agree that GW Bush is smart. It’s the notion that Obama is particularly intelligent compared to other presidential candidates that I find peculiar.

    Winning the nomination is nice but nothing special — all presidential candidates have to win the nomination to enter the general election.

    What else have you got?

    Comment by burroughs — August 20, 2008 @ 12:37 pm | Reply

  38. Ron R. — BTW, I don’t think of myself as “brainiac.” I suggest you not think of yourself as a mind-reader.

    Comment by burroughs — August 20, 2008 @ 12:45 pm | Reply

  39. Nunn, if he rejects his opposition to gays in the military when he was chair of Armed Services and we got “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell.”

    Comment by my sense — August 20, 2008 @ 1:39 pm | Reply

  40. What Moderation?
    Spelling? Fact?

    Comment by my sense — August 20, 2008 @ 1:50 pm | Reply

  41. I feel genuine pity for those who believe and present as fact such blatantly biased and unfounded opinions about a candidate.

    I’ll see your pity and raise you contempt: contempt for a Marxist, egotistical, inexperienced, narcissistic kid with no past and no future. Barack Obama was born a nobody, and he has not taken advantage of the America he doesn’t know to change that. History will remember him not at all. He’s utterly vapid and without form, as, frankly, are his supporters. That’s why this will be a McCain landslide, and not because McCain is any favorite of mine or of other conservatives.

    Comment by Herr Morgenholz — August 20, 2008 @ 4:22 pm | Reply

  42. Come one now….nunn might make a good cabinet member, but a VP?

    Comment by Clob — August 20, 2008 @ 9:07 pm | Reply

  43. Chhosing a male VP opens a HUGE window for McCain to select a female VP and sweep the “18 million” Hillary voters.

    Comment by Snoop Diggity-DANG-Dawg — August 21, 2008 @ 7:39 am | Reply

  44. Herr M.

    You demonstrate my point more effectively than any rhetoric could. A person with such unjustified contempt in their heart is truly deserving of pity.

    In the face common-knowledge evidence to the contrary, you authoritatively offer as fact, your opinion that Mr. Obama is a ‘formless’ and ‘vapid’ ‘nobody’ who will not even be remembered by history. Never mind that your chosen adjectives are so subjective they couldn’t possibly be mistaken for valid criticisms much less facts.

    And what, besides bluster and hubris do you provide as the basis for your outlandish claims? Nothing. The more confident people like you try to sound, the more ignorant and insecure you reveal yourselves to be.

    Comment by Kasey Rasmussen — August 21, 2008 @ 1:09 pm | Reply

  45. Ron Rosenbaum — I hope you’re not going to go into another funk because people don’t share your sweet tooth for Obama. He’s just another politician, and a machine politician from Chicago at that. Sure, he saw a remarkable chance for a run up the middle in the Dem primary because he was largely untouchable as a black and he could sing sweet songs of hope and change. It was a damn impressive run.

    But that’s over. Now he faces an experienced Republican opponent that he can’t steamroller, and the rest of us have figured out his game. He has painted himself into several corners because of all the far left associations and causes he wedded himself to so that he could get this far, this fast.

    It’s all downhill from here and there is nothing Obama can do about it. Whatever he does, he will reveal himself further for what he really is: a far left rookie, illiterate in history, economics, and foreign affairs, who is only smart at campaigning — the only “measurable result” you will claim for him.

    Comment by burroughs — August 21, 2008 @ 10:46 pm | Reply

  46. Looks like it’s Bayh, as of Friday 8/22 at 6PM – check the link to HotAIr

    Comment by J.J. Sefton — August 22, 2008 @ 3:12 pm | Reply

  47. Philip J. Berg, Esq. Files Federal Lawsuit Requesting Obama Be Removed as a Candidate as he does not meet the Qualifications for President.

    Comment by AdrianS — August 22, 2008 @ 3:48 pm | Reply

  48. …if Obama is as smart and shrewd as I think he is (no drama, but no dreamer) and he wants gravitas …he’ll have made up his mind when that mini war broke out last Friday. And would have chosen Sam Nunn.

    Ron Rosenbaum — So where are you now? Obama did pick Biden, and according to Politico, Nunn wasn’t even vetted:

    The former Georgia senator said recently that he hadn’t been vetted, and now his spokeswoman says he’s going to be out of the country through Monday.

    It would seem that either Obama is not as smart and shrewd as Ron Rosenbaum thinks, or Ron Rosenbaum is not as smart and shrewd as Ron Rosenbaum thinks. Perhaps both.

    Comment by burroughs — August 23, 2008 @ 11:21 am | Reply

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